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Drephen > Falco (and how he does it)

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Lexaeus

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Dash attack when falco lasers. works well when falco is retreating with lasers.

spot dodge aerials. messes with their l-cancels.

downsmash the initial phantasm recovery.

spotdodges if the phantasm is high or he doesn't think he can dsmash in time or something like that. not really sure.

stand away from the edge, bait the ledgehop double laser then run in and dsmash.

if falco is on one of the two side platforms (not the top one), he stays on the ground and waits for them to come down. he stands under the opposite platform, approx. under the edge closer to the center of the stage.

if the falco is below the ledge, he dsmashes when they're landing.

if falco is off the stage but above the ledge and is using his up B to recover, he usually throws needles to block off a firefox aimed at the ledge.

ftilt > upsmash

counterpicks DK64.

dash attacks a lot when they're shielding. I don't quite get the reasoning behind this one. I'm guessing he's trying to catch them right as they try to do something out of their shield.

times jumps well to get over the falco when they run in with a shffl then uses some aerial to hit them, depending on position. doesn't use dair that much though. usually nair or fair, bair only if the positioning is right.

and then all his general mindgames that work on everyone. like running in and putting up his shield to wait for a spotdodge, wavedash back, catching them when they jump with an immediate fair, and techchasing, which he is amazing at. This is actually the bulk of how he ***** falco, but it's not specific.

of course, most of you won't be able to do what he does anyway, not without a lot of experience and by studying other players and his vids on your own. i ****ing hate falco with a passion so i made this thread so more people can **** falco.

anything else i missed?
 

Plairnkk

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he blinds them with gingerness then downsmashes them when theyre trying to cleanse their eyes
 

Drephen

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lol i really just spam grab, dash attack, and downsmash untill it works

this thread makes it look like i actually know what im doing


in all honesty, plank is right
 
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drew I notice that when you downthrow fox/falco, you WD to where they landed, then tech chase accordingly, which actually makes it very easy when I tried it.
 

balladechina212

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Drephen, when you techchase, do you try to predict where your opponent is going and pick a spot or do you see which direction they go and THEN follow?
 

Falco&Victory

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There's even a kill drephen thread in the Falco threads.

Drephen, where do you live? I have the most unpredictable Falco in the world, I trained him as a Sheik killer. I could always just bust out my Yoshi though.

Yeah, Sheik is a complete Falco counter, more so than Jigglypuff.
 

Lexaeus

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lol, Drephen is the only Falco counter. If your Falco is halfway decent it's an uphill battle for Sheik.
 

XDoesUpB

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There's even a kill drephen thread in the Falco threads.

Drephen, where do you live? I have the most unpredictable Falco in the world, I trained him as a Sheik killer. I could always just bust out my Yoshi though.

Yeah, Sheik is a complete Falco counter, more so than Jigglypuff.
Sheik is no Falco counter.
 

Banks

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Dash attack when falco lasers. works well when falco is retreating with lasers.

if the falco laser right, you'll just run into a laser

spot dodge aerials. messes with their l-cancels.

if they lcancel youll get shined right after the spot dodge



spotdodges if the phantasm is high or he doesn't think he can dsmash in time or something like that. not really sure.

if they are higher you can usmash. see KDJ.


stand away from the edge, bait the ledgehop double laser then run in and dsmash.

they should hit you with a laser


dash attacks a lot when they're shielding. I don't quite get the reasoning behind this one. I'm guessing he's trying to catch them right as they try to do something out of their shield.

you shouldn't do that, but I think he knew shiz was not punishing it. im assuming you are referring to those vids.
lolololol >_>
 
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