Dream On: Rumored release date May 16

[RelaxAlax]

What do you guys think?

Very good analysis.

To be honest, I feel the game could be finished by then, but the Wii U (and 3DS) is gonna need a blockbuster or two by Christmas. Considering Mario is pegged for this year and DKC is being released early next year, they may push it to then alongside the new Zelda. It's possible we'll see big ole Reggie strut on the stage of E3 2014 (or the E3 Direct) , say some cheesy appreciation speech to fans, and regret to announce it'll be delayed until November ... again.

But hey prove me wrong please! I'd love some hope for an earlier smash!

 

[iam8bit]

It's a good point to consider Nintendo possibly wanting Smash for a strong Holiday 2014 lineup, but Zelda could potentially be ready by then with something else. And Brawl released in the spring along with Mario Kart, which coincidentially is expected for Q2 2014.

Also, June 2014 would be 2 years since the start of its development, which is what Brawl was originally going to take to come out, without the delays.

I know I'm pretty much wishful thinking, but I just think a Spring/Summer 2014 release shouldn't be completely ruled out. That's all I'm saying.

*Edited because I can't spell.

 

[RelaxAlax]

I know I'm prette much wishful thinking, but I just think a Spring/Summer 2014 release shouldn't be completely ruled out. That's all I'm saying.

I think if it were going to come out then, we'd be expecting a trailer and date by December. It only seems right, and it is not impossible. I sure hope it does though, I'm ready to smash cresh and bash in HD.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

They sure have to pick up the pace with character reveals, more specifically newcomer reveals, if it's going to be revealed in Spring/Summer. I think it's going to be Summer earliest, but I'm still holding out for Fall, just to not keep myself too optimistic. Not to mention I live in Europe, worst case scenario I'll only get a hold of the game in 2015.

 

[Vintage Creep]

They sure have to pick up the pace with character reveals, more specifically newcomer reveals, if it's going to be revealed in Spring/Summer. I think it's going to be Summer earliest, but I'm still holding out for Fall, just to not keep myself too optimistic. Not to mention I live in Europe, worst case scenario I'll only get a hold of the game in 2015.

Yeah I live in Italy and I remember the Brawl fiasco.
Still though I'm sure this time around the difference will be of a couple of weeks tops. At least in the same month anyway.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Yeah I live in Italy and I remember the Brawl fiasco.
Still though I'm sure this time around the difference will be of a couple of weeks tops. At least in the same month anyway.

The worldwide Pokémon X & Y release has simply been fantastic, I'm super grateful for it. I dearly hope the same thing will happen with Smash Bros, but considering there were big problems for Nintendo with stores in Canada selling the game early, resulting in people leaking the game everywhere, I doubt they're going to want to do it again.

I do hope we could at least get the game in the same month, even that would be amazing. At least less than half a year after the Japanese release.

 

[Vintage Creep]

The worldwide Pokémon X & Y release has simply been fantastic, I'm super grateful for it. I dearly hope the same thing will happen with Smash Bros, but considering there were big problems for Nintendo with stores in Canada selling the game early, resulting in people leaking the game everywhere, I doubt they're going to want to do it again.

I do hope we could at least get the game in the same month, even that would be amazing. At least less than half a year after the Japanese release.

I think the whole Brawl disaster was simply one of many repercussions of Sonic's late inclusion. It may sound a little disconnected but we actually know nothing about game development and how every single problem affects the release date.
Also, I don't think the leaking of Pokémon X/Y will be related to any difference in release dates across the world for Smash Bros. It leaked, but it's something that can happen everywhere basically. And, also, there's no difference really. I bought the game a whole week before the 12th anyway lol, even Italy was guilty of that.

 

[iam8bit]

They sure have to pick up the pace with character reveals, more specifically newcomer reveals, if it's going to be revealed in Spring/Summer. I think it's going to be Summer earliest, but I'm still holding out for Fall, just to not keep myself too optimistic. Not to mention I live in Europe, worst case scenario I'll only get a hold of the game in 2015.

They do, though I think we have quite a bit of veterans with the triple reveal. And maybe Sakurai wants to save the non-unlockable newcomers and stages for later, closer to the release date. I think he spoke about "revealing too much" last time.

Oh, and I'm glad that game releases have been a bit better for you guys. The worldwide Pokémon release was great for everyone, something like that would be awesome for Smash.

 

[PikaJew]

I want to believe.
Especially since they aren't doing a huge Subspace Emissary mode with cutscenes this time. And hopefully they don't take the time to do the masterpieces again. They were a cool concept but time consuming. They should just push those classic games on the virtual console leading up to the release.

The main reason why I am skeptical is because of the spring release of Mario Kart 8. I would think they would keep their biggest system seller closer to the holiday season.

 

[soviet prince]

I still don't see a plus for waiting to holiday season to release it. I mean if it's released in spring ppl can still buy it next holiday. PLus wii u needs games as soon as possible gaming mag don't even mention the wii anymore.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I still don't see a plus for waiting to holiday season to release it. I mean if it's released in spring ppl can still buy it next holiday. PLus wii u needs games as soon as possible gaming mag don't even mention the wii anymore.

It's not a matter of when it's the best moment to release it, it's a matter of when the game is finished, and I doubt it'll be ready for May.

 

[Violenceman]

I still don't see a plus for waiting to holiday season to release it. I mean if it's released in spring ppl can still buy it next holiday. PLus wii u needs games as soon as possible gaming mag don't even mention the wii anymore.

If you have a highly anticipated game that is meant to sell your system, you want it to coincide when people would be likely to buy the system. And a huge portion of Nintendo's demographic have to rely on holidays for that kind of thing, since they really don't have the kind of income needed for that purchase. Plus Nintendo probably wants their highly anticipated release to show a huge opening week in sales (considering the Wii U's rough start), and the holiday season is the best time for that.

Nintendo doesn't need to play the same game Sony and Microsoft do; they are in the console business and if they have a slow start to a console, third-parties go to the competition and they are screwed. Nintendo is in the game business; if a console has a slow start, that sucks, but if people want to play the new Mario, Zelda, Smash, etc (and they usually do), they know where they have to go and what they have to buy. It's not like Nintendo really even need the "gaming mag" industry at all (evident by the Nintendo Directs). Saying Nintendo is not getting enough press is like saying Disney World is not getting enough press; the gaming public have a pretty good idea what the deal is.

 

[Johnknight1]

Anyone who wants Smash Wii U and Smash 3DS (both of which are said to be very different games) released before winter 2014 is an idiot, unless they want a bare-boned awful game with terrible balance like Brawl, and a minimalist roster on top of it with few game modes, stages, content, and whatnot.

If you want the best game, hope for delays (like how Super Metroid, Ocarina of Time, and Melee got delayed), or at least agree with this...

I prefer no official release date and just working on polish,

This is everything I agree with.

Some of you need to wise up to it.

 

[Vintage Creep]

Melee got delayed? LOL
You say the best games are always delayed, and then you say Brawl is awful? Ok LOL

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Anyone who wants Smash Wii U and Smash 3DS (both of which are said to be very different games) released before winter 2014 is an idiot, unless they want a bare-boned awful game with terrible balance like Brawl, and a minimalist roster on top of it with few game modes, stages, content, and whatnot.

If you want the best game, hope for delays (like how Super Metroid, Ocarina of Time, and Melee got delayed), or at least agree with this...

This is everything I agree with.

Some of you need to wise up to it.

Melee wasn't really delayed, and if it was it wasn't by much. Melee was released a month after the launch of the Gamecube in NA, two months in JP, and not even a month in EU.

This game won't release in 2015 like you suggest it should. Thinking and wanting it to release in 2015 is just needless and stupid, there's a difference between cleaning the game up and nitpicking the game to perfection, which they won't do. Nintendo can't afford to delay it to 2015 right now, and the game will be long finished by then. As the above poster said, Brawl was delayed, but that didn't help it other than get Sonic in. Delaying games won't always make them perfect, it can make them better, but there's no reason to delay the game beyond what it needs to, especially considering both the 3DS and Wii U are very capable of being patched.

 

[soviet prince]

Anyone who wants Smash Wii U and Smash 3DS (both of which are said to be very different games) released before winter 2014 is an idiot, unless they want a bare-boned awful game with terrible balance like Brawl, and a minimalist roster on top of it with few game modes, stages, content, and whatnot.

If you want the best game, hope for delays (like how Super Metroid, Ocarina of Time, and Melee got delayed), or at least agree with this...

This is everything I agree with.

Some of you need to wise up to it.

the game can be realsed well before that and be a good game, i don't know how long you think it takes to make this type of game

 

[iam8bit]

Not to mention that a 2015 release would mean the game took about a year longer than Brawl to get made. And that smashbros.com will be releasing daily pics and updates for two years (while the Dojo ran for around less than a year WITH a delay).

 

[PikaJew]

Next holidays are going to be a crucial time.

The PS4 and XBOX ONE will have a year under their belts.
Parents who did not buy a system for their kids this year are going to be paying close attention.
With a guaranteed system seller like Smash Bros being fresh on the market, Donkey Kong, Mario 3D World and Mario Kart as back ups, and the already dropped price, people will be flocking to the Wii U for their kids.

Even with Mario and the price cut the Wii U is still going to be overshadowed by these two new consoles this christmas.
However a year later the hype will have died down and the biggest selling point for these systems will be the games.
Smash Bros still needs to be fresh to make people want this system.
Mario Kart will do a good job creating that end of school/summer rush.
Mario Kart is the foreplay to stimulate you and get everyone all fired up and reading to go.
Then Smash Bros comes in to bring you to that ultimate nerdgasm.

Nintendo needs their ace in the hole for the next holiday season.
Nintendo's selling point can't just be "buy us, we're cheaper than the other 2"
It needs to be "we are cheaper than the other 2, create a better family environment and have the games to back it up"

 

[Morbi]

I have actually been speculating that this game would come out late Q2 (pre-summer) for the longest time. Not based on this leak, I based it on one of the Nintendo related articles I read. They want to push out all of their games Q4 this year, and Q1/2 next year. So naturally I assumed that a console seller like Smash would have to be rushed to fit this deadline. They are going to need some awesome IP to compete against Ps4 and Xbox. Not to mention they already cut story mode and gave a BS excuse. So I am speculating that we will get this game much earlier than people are anticipating.

 

[iam8bit]

I get the obviousness of the "holiday release", but I also think Nintendo's calendar can go something like this:

Q1: Donkey Kong
Q2: Mario Kart
Q3: Smash
Q4: Zelda

Add a whatever else that will be released next year to fill the gaps and it would be a nice way to spread out big releases and have a strong holiday season.

 

[Morbi]

I get the obviousness of the "holiday release", but I also think Nintendo's calendar can go something like this:

Q1: Donkey Kong
Q2: Mario Kart
Q3: Smash
Q4: Zelda

Add a whatever else that will be released next year to fill the gaps and it would be a nice way to spread out big releases and have a strong holiday season.

Yeah, I think Nintendo is going to hate the holiday season once the next gen consoles launch. Haha.

 

[iam8bit]

Yeah, I think Nintendo is going to hate the holiday season once the next gen consoles launch. Haha.

LOL... sad, but true!

There are already rumors of retailers reducing Nintendo/WiiU shelf space in favor of PS4/XBONE.

Hopefully next year things get better. The Wii U is in desperate need of games like Smash and Mario Kart, which is also a reason I think Smash will take less time to come out than what is expected.

 

[PikaJew]

LOL... sad, but true!

There's rumors of retailers are reducing Nintendo/WiiU shelf space in favor of PS4/XBONE already.

Hopefully next year things get better. The Wii U is in desperate need of games like Smash and Mario Kart, which is also a reason I think Smash will take less time to come out than what is expected.

In a perfect world we'll get Smash in March, then Mario Kart in April.
This is perfect timing for most of us seeing as we are finished classes by then.
I have much more time to game over the summer than the school year.
Hopefully they do what GTA did and wait a few weeks before launching online so everyone has time to get to know the game. Then naturally have to patch some online issues when they release it.
Then have it up and running completely fine in time for summer.

Create some kind of Miiverse tournaments.
They need to continue what they did with Mario Kart Wii for for 8 and Smash and have a separate channel for daily online events.
Some kind of extra event match for Smash would be great.
Release some online event match only trophies to winners to add some incentive.

Imagine the summer Nintendo will have with fully functioning online for both Smash and Mario Kart...

 

[Johnknight1]

My thinking is that the "2014" release date isn't a definitive thing. Heck, it even says "Planned release: 2014" on the Dojo. PLANNED!!!

The "2014" release date could just be Nintendo's thing, or the hopeful/earliest expected release date of both/either game.

If Nintendo and Namco Bandai were really expecting this game to come out, it would just say "Release Date: 2014" on the Dojo.

Melee wasn't really delayed, and if it was it wasn't by much. Melee was released a month after the launch of the Gamecube in NA, two months in JP, and not even a month in EU.

The NA release date of the GCN was delayed hardcore. That is part of the reason the GCN was such a gigantic commercial bomb. The Xbox came out a few days before, and the PS2 had already taken any market Nintendo could have had, especially since Nintendo's marketing direction was awful back then (despite having what IMO is probably their 2nd best home console).

And yes, Melee was suppose to be a Japanese GCN launch title, but it wasn't, because it was delayed over 2 months.

This game won't release in 2015 like you suggest it should.

Games. GAMES. GAMES!!!! There are TWO forthcoming Smash games, and Namco Bandai is making them to be different games. Last I checked, two games are much harder to make then one, unless we got some bullcrap version thing going on like with Pokémahnzs.

Thinking and wanting it to release in 2015 is just needless and stupid, there's a difference between cleaning the game up and nitpicking the game to perfection, which they won't do.

"A delayed game may eventually become good; a bad game is bad forever." -Shigeru Miyamoto

Nintendo can't afford to delay it to 2015 right now,

Then why did Nintendo afford to hold off Mario Kart 8 and DKC: Tropical Freeze to 2014=???

Last I checked, Mario Kart is a bigger and better seller than Smash. Mario Kart Wii sold more than 3 times as many copies as Brawl.

Also, how can you accurately forecast Q4 2014 right now=??? I'm not even sure we can accurately Q4 2013 right now, given how the Xbox One and PS4 basically have dreadful launch titles and literally nothing to work with, and judging by what I'm hearing, those consoles are a giant mess right now.

I'd say Nintendo has a lot of time, actually, since the whole DRM dealio may have screwed over both Microsoft and Sony.

Delaying games won't always make them perfect, it can make them better, but there's no reason to delay the game beyond what it needs to, especially considering both the 3DS and Wii U are very capable of being patched.

There's what I was looking for. I knew you'd save the knockout punch for the end silly billy.

While I am perfectly okay with this, ultimately, in release date forecasting I don't see Namco Bandai or Nintendo being happy with this. On top of that, from what I can tell of the early 2015, that looks to be a weak spot for the PS4 and Xbox One potentially. Saving Smash, Pokémon Wii U, or Zelda Wii U for then might be a good idea.

 

[iam8bit]

Tropical Freeze was delayed because they already have Wii Party, Wii Fit U and Mario 3D World for the holidays, not because they wanted to improve something.

I personally wouldn't mind or care if Smash is delayed until 2015 if it means the game will be fantastic, but Nintendo is a business, and if they think that releasing Smash earlier rather than later is the best for their business, they'll do everything possible for it to happen.

If a mid-2014 release date wasn't at least a possibility, they wouldn't have debuted the daily pics or already have all the veteran confirmations we have.

 

[PikaJew]

Tropical Freeze was delayed because they already have Wii Party, Wii Fit U and Mario 3D World for the holidays, not because they wanted to improve something.

I personally wouldn't mind or care if Smash is delayed until 2015 if it means the game will be fantastic, but Nintendo is a business, and if they think that releasing Smash earlier rather than later is the best for their business, they'll do everything possible for it to happen.

If a mid-2014 release date wasn't at least a possibility, they wouldn't have debuted the daily pics or already have all the veteran confirmations we have.

I think they want to strategically release games so once we play through one and enjoy it there will be a new one coming out for us.

People that are finishing up Wind Waker have Sonic Lost World to play.
After beating Sonic they will have Mario and more Christmas releases.
Once Mario is done we have Donkey Kong to look forward to.
After Donkey Kong we have Mario Kart.
Mario Kart will last us throughout the summer with endless fun if they manage to create a great online environment.
They need to bring back the challenges to keep things fresh.
And we see Smash for Q3 of 2014 in the fall.

Smart decision to space out the major releases to give enough time for everyone to enjoy each game.
If they released Mario Kart, 3D World, Tropical Freeze and Smash all at once we wouldn't get to enjoy them all.
By the time we take a break from Smash it would have already been a few months with those other major games collecting dust.
Release them individually at random times throughout the year so we never have a drought of good games to play.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Tropical Freeze was delayed because they already have Wii Party, Wii Fit U and Mario 3D World for the holidays, not because they wanted to improve something.

No way. Christmas is coming up, they want as many big games as possible out by then. DKC:TF was supposed to come out in time for christmas, but didn't, which certainly isn't good for Nintendo, since the Wii U is lacking in sales and they would want to go all out on christmas to get as many people to buy it at once. DKC:TF's delay most certainly wasn't good for their business.

 

[iam8bit]

So, guess what game is positioned directly after Mario Kart 8 in Nintendo's release calendar?

No way. Christmas is coming up, they want as many big games as possible out by then. DKC:TF was supposed to come out in time for christmas, but didn't, which certainly isn't good for Nintendo, since the Wii U is lacking in sales and they would want to go all out on christmas to get as many people to buy it at once. DKC:TF's delay most certainly wasn't good for their business.

IMO, they wanted to focus on 3D World for the holidays, so they just delayed Tropical Freeze for the Spring, where they didn't have anything. I played DK at Comic-Con in July and it felt pretty complete to me.

I think it was a business decision rather than a development one. But who knows.

 

[iam8bit]

Damn double post. Carry on...

 

[MasterOfKnees]

That's pretty interesting, though nothing definite it could potentially give us an idea of how far it is in development.

Also, I like how the Kirby 3DS game is called "A New Kirby Game" in the US list, but is called "Kirby for Nintendo 3DS" in the EU one, tentative titles with the same meaning, but for no apparent reason they're still different

 

[Rosalina suporter]

So, guess what game is positioned directly after Mario Kart 8 in Nintendo's release calendar?

IMO, they wanted to focus on 3D World for the holidays, so they just delayed Tropical Freeze for the Spring, where they didn't have anything. I played DK at Comic-Con in July and it felt pretty complete to me.

I think it was a business decision rather than a development one. But who knows.

Were did that come from? So i think iv heard Mario Kart 8 is coming out in april the 25th? if true and that reales sheet that you posted is legit then we could very well see Super Smash Bros wii u in May.


Never mind i found were it came from.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/131031e.pdf

 

[soviet prince]

crosses fingers for may

 

[PadWarrior]

So, guess what game is positioned directly after Mario Kart 8 in Nintendo's release calendar?

IMO, they wanted to focus on 3D World for the holidays, so they just delayed Tropical Freeze for the Spring, where they didn't have anything. I played DK at Comic-Con in July and it felt pretty complete to me.

I think it was a business decision rather than a development one. But who knows.

OOOOOOO Where did you find this gem?

 

[Rosalina suporter]

OOOOOOO Where did you find this gem?

Heres the link.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/131031e.pdf

 

[PadWarrior]

Heres the link.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/131031e.pdf

Thanks!!!

 

[Rosalina suporter]

Thanks!!!

Your welcome,If it comes out in may then we have 6 months till smash 4.

 

[iam8bit]

Yeah, that's from Nintendo's Investor Briefing thingie. They show that calendar every year to show investors what's coming out to help them sustain hardware sales.

There's even more to consider:

* There's been rumors of Bayonetta 2 and FExSMT delays, meaning they absolutely won't come out before Smash
* Yarn Yoshi has not even been shown playable and hasn't been talked about since January (in fact, it wasn't "ready to be shown" at E3)
* Tropical Freeze still has no Japanese release date
* After Tropical Freeze (Wii Fit U in Japan) and Mario Kart 8, there's nothing left but Smash coming out for Wii U

Could we see a release in the 1st half of 2014?

 

[iam8bit]

More fuel to the fire.

I'm personally leaning more towards a summer release, but we'll see.

 

[soviet prince]

crosses fingers for april, if nintendo announces a realse date on the 7th I am preordering the 8th