Download-A-Character

[freeman123]

Why would anyone want to have to pay for additional content. That's like saying "Hey guys, wouldn't the game be better if we had to pay a monthly fee for online play?"

 

[raul]

I think some people are misunderstanding the whole "paying" notion. Originally I had posted Wii points and you could obviously by the Wii points at the store but I didn't relaize how high I set the prices for the EXAMPLE and thus, no one can talk about anything but price. Jesus Christ, sometime I wish I wasn't human so I wouldn't make mistakes. Anyway I fixed it so its alot more reasonable. No, I DID NOT state that you would pay real money to get these characters, you would buy Wii Points and yes I know you must pay for Wii points, but with the editing of my original post, I have made it possible to

1.) Buy the Wii points and get characters and stages for one $20 Wii points card--AS AN EXAMPLE AS TO ONE WAY THE SYSTEM MAY WORK

OR

2.) As other smash posters have posted: UPDATES that would be free and you could download extra content such as characters stages music etc. etc.

So if you did not read the new edited post, it is the 1st post on the 1st page of the thread. Read it and undestand it before you cry about the money issue.

And if we could get past the money aspect of it and talk about the idea of downloading characters and such, that be great.

 

[Houndstooth]

Alright. I'm kind of new to the whole Smash Boards forums, but I believe that I understand what the creator of this thread is meaning. Let's see if I can explain it, and see how others like it.

The game is out, and I go out and buy it. After unlocking all the characters and things, people are beginning to get a little bored with it(I know it will take a while, and I don't think people will get bored quickly with this game. This is just an example!). New characters, stages, etc., etc., would refresh the entire game. Nintendo decides to hold a vote after many people begin to complain about the characters, and will vote on some more characters to include to the game.

As a player, I would want a character that I wanted before the game to come out to be included in this 'Downloadable Package.' Let's say Crono from the Chrono Trigger series does not make the cut. I, and many others, vote for him to be included in this package. After the votes are tallied, he is one of the top contenders in the polls. Nintendo announces that Crono will be one of the characters to download.

Now, more characters are able to be downloaded, and I really want them. I pay with Wii Points(I have decided not to specify how much because of all the 'hate' over before) and the characters are downloaded to my Wii. I then decided to play online with Crono, and meet someone that did not buy the characters.

How can I play this person? Easy. The Wii had an update that would allow every Wii to recognize the new characters. The only downside would be that you could not play these players on the new stages because they did not purchase the stages. Other than this, the idea would work.

It is just like Marvel:Ultimate Alliance for the Xbox 360. They put new characters onto the game to download, and if you did not download them then you could update your system to recognize the characters on online play.

This would benefit fans because they would have a 'second chance' to let the characters that they wished for into the game. The Smash fans that do not have online access would only be missing out because they do not have online, but it would not hurt them. Well, maybe their feelings, but other than that nothing.

Did I explain this well enough? Or was it still confusing to some?

 

[raul]

Alright. I'm kind of new to the whole Smash Boards forums, but I believe that I understand what the creator of this thread is meaning. Let's see if I can explain it, and see how others like it.

The game is out, and I go out and buy it. After unlocking all the characters and things, people are beginning to get a little bored with it(I know it will take a while, and I don't think people will get bored quickly with this game. This is just an example!). New characters, stages, etc., etc., would refresh the entire game. Nintendo decides to hold a vote after many people begin to complain about the characters, and will vote on some more characters to include to the game.

As a player, I would want a character that I wanted before the game to come out to be included in this 'Downloadable Package.' Let's say Crono from the Chrono Trigger series does not make the cut. I, and many others, vote for him to be included in this package. After the votes are tallied, he is one of the top contenders in the polls. Nintendo announces that Crono will be one of the characters to download.

Now, more characters are able to be downloaded, and I really want them. I pay with Wii Points(I have decided not to specify how much because of all the 'hate' over before) and the characters are downloaded to my Wii. I then decided to play online with Crono, and meet someone that did not buy the characters.

How can I play this person? Easy. The Wii had an update that would allow every Wii to recognize the new characters. The only downside would be that you could not play these players on the new stages because they did not purchase the stages. Other than this, the idea would work.

It is just like Marvel:Ultimate Alliance for the Xbox 360. They put new characters onto the game to download, and if you did not download them then you could update your system to recognize the characters on online play.

This would benefit fans because they would have a 'second chance' to let the characters that they wished for into the game. The Smash fans that do not have online access would only be missing out because they do not have online, but it would not hurt them. Well, maybe their feelings, but other than that nothing.

Did I explain this well enough? Or was it still confusing to some?

This is exactly what I meant. I wish you had said it for me initially. Minus all the technology crap that I didn't know this is exactly the point I was trying to make.

 

[the grim lizard]

Terrible idea. No explanation needed.

 

[Arteen]

Terrible idea. No explanation needed.

Actually, yes, an explanation is needed.

 

[Houndstooth]

This is exactly what I meant. I wish you had said it for me initially. Minus all the technology crap that I didn't know this is exactly the point I was trying to make.

This is what I viewed this for, bro. I decided not to put any money detail. I saw how bad you got hit with it. No offense...

 

[the grim lizard]

Actually, yes, an explanation is needed.

If you don't have the brains to figure it out on your own, then explaining it to you wouldn't do any good.

 

[freeman123]

I think some people are misunderstanding the whole "paying" notion. Originally I had posted Wii points and you could obviously by the Wii points at the store but I didn't relaize how high I set the prices for the EXAMPLE and thus, no one can talk about anything but price. Jesus Christ, sometime I wish I wasn't human so I wouldn't make mistakes. Anyway I fixed it so its alot more reasonable. No, I DID NOT state that you would pay real money to get these characters, you would buy Wii Points and yes I know you must pay for Wii points, but with the editing of my original post, I have made it possible to

1.) Buy the Wii points and get characters and stages for one $20 Wii points card--AS AN EXAMPLE AS TO ONE WAY THE SYSTEM MAY WORK

OR

2.) As other smash posters have posted: UPDATES that would be free and you could download extra content such as characters stages music etc. etc.

So if you did not read the new edited post, it is the 1st post on the 1st page of the thread. Read it and undestand it before you cry about the money issue.

And if we could get past the money aspect of it and talk about the idea of downloading characters and such, that be great.

Or how about you pay $50 one time and get the entire game at once?

 

[raul]

This is what I viewed this for, bro. I decided not to put any money detail. I saw how bad you got hit with it. No offense...

None taken. You're just smart enough to learn from my mistake.

Or how about you pay $50 one time and get the entire game at once?

How about, no ****. You would still get the entire game for $50 bucks, but what would be offered on the Wii channel would just be extra stuff that was not in the original game. So you would have the original game for $50 just not the additional content. The additional content could be free updates as several other people have already stated. So you would still have the entire game just without some perks of some characters or a couple of stages. And if you were online, which I got a gut feeling most Wiis are, you would still get the extra content via the free updates, hence no money spent.

 

[Houndstooth]

How do people learn to get on these threads? They make it to the thread, and then they cannot comprehend what is going on.

 

[raul]

How do people learn to get on these threads? They make it to the thread, and then they cannot comprehend what is going on.

Lol, not sure anyone can anwser that. I think it might be just an achievment to make it to the thread.

 

[Houndstooth]

Haha... I agree with you. A very big accomplishment for some.

 

[Arteen]

If you don't have the brains to figure it out on your own, then explaining it to you wouldn't do any good.

Oh wow, you're a master of persuasive argument: ignore the question and insult the person who asked, eh? Very classy.

 

[raul]

Oh wow, you're a master of persuasive argument: ignore the question and insult the person who asked, eh? Very classy.

I wouldn't bother with it anymore. If he doesn't want to explain it, **** 'em.

 

[Ger-Bah]

Well, the "download-a-character" idea has met some heavy resistance, mostly due to the "don't want to pay for each additional character" and "no internet". But, mayhaps they will release something akin to an "expansion"? Improbable as talking dinosaurs I know, but it seems like it could be a better way to go. People wouldn't need internet, it would probably contain more goodies to justify the purchase, I just don't know how it would be done on a console (it probably HAS been done, anyone know?). That, and if this is going to be the "last" Smash Bros., I think Nintendo is gonna want to milk it for as much as they can really.

 

[Houndstooth]

Expansion pack would work. Just think of Halo 2 and the Map Pack. Seperate, new stages, but, for Brawl, new characters. See how this would work for the people who do not have internet?

 

[the grim lizard]

"The only thing that could make Brawl any better than the game being delayed 4 more months is for them to save some of the content until later to be downloaded at a cost!!"

Yep, fantastic idea.

 

[Houndstooth]

"The only thing that could make Brawl any better than the game being delayed 4 more months is for them to save some of the content until later to be downloaded at a cost!!"

Yep, fantastic idea.

Um... Who are you quoting? Also, reread some of the people who have explained this. Until then, just try not to say stupid things. Big emphasis on try.

 

[the grim lizard]

Yep, nobody's ever thought of this idea before either. You guys are revolutionary! How about you try not to be stupid for once? plenty of people have explained why it's terrible already.

 

[TheOfficialSonicFanboy]

ACTUALLY, time out here.
The coins earned in the game COULD be used to purchase character's online! I know it doesn't says it's not for shopping on the DOJO, but he could be calling it something else?
By the way, great idea! I was thinking the same thing!

 

[SoraMar]

yes, thats an idea! or, maybe stages, items or added cutscenes in adventure

 

[Andy4Brawl_911]

i like it but inlikely, i wish soo...

It would be great for characters not in after Sakurais poll, giving them a chance. Like Claus or Ashle or my beloved Andy. BTW beat AV 2 again, sweet.


Also stages should be added if soo.

 

[raul]

Ok great posts everyone, I just want to recap the pros and cons so new people can understand what the deabte is and so we're all on the same page.

Idea: Downloabale content for Super Smash Brothers Brawl. The content could be obtain in several different manners:
1.) With the use of Wii points, via the wii shop channel
2.) Updates which would not require free points
3.) An expansion pack
4.) The coins pictured at the end of clearing a level could be used to purchases the downloadable content

What the downloadable content could contain:
1.) New character from Sakurai's poll, again voted on by fans
2.) Stages either new or from Melee or SSB64
3.) Extra music tracks, trophies, weapons, alternate costumes, etc.
4.) Stuff I forgot to mention

PROS:
1.) Would allow new characters, fan favorites, to get into the game
2.) More stages and items to use
3.) Fans have say in which characters get in so fans would actually be creating the game, for a lack of a better term
4.) Could enhance online fighting

CONS:
1.) People who cannot connect to the internet would be missing out
2.) If having to obtain through Wii points, cost could factor in making it more expensive
3.) Game may have too crowded with characters and such
4.) Some feel that they should get the whole game when they pay $50 for it in stores

If I forgot anything then let me know. Once again great posts guy.
--Raul.

 

[the_Capt_Falcon_Master]

I absolutly loves this idea. This way everyone wins! If your fav character didn't quite make it into brawl, there is always that possibility that the will be downloadable in the future. This could be one of the best things to happen to the series (if it does happen)

 

[Kokaloo]

It'd be like Nintendo's own version of WoW.
Plus tournaments,
The people hosting would have to spend that much PER WII just to get everyone playable.
That'd suck for them.

 

[Arteen]

"The only thing that could make Brawl any better than the game being delayed 4 more months is for them to save some of the content until later to be downloaded at a cost!!"

Yep, fantastic idea.

Yeah, you're utterly and entirely missing the point. The downloadable content would be new content developed after the game's release. You see, they could delay the game over and over to get even more content into the game, or they could choose to polish and finish the game, then develop even more content afterwards. Also, if the downloadable content follows the route taken by Bungie with Halo 2's downloadable maps, then the content will be initially released for a price, but it would eventually become free. So, if you have patience, you're getting extra, free content. Is that bad thing?

Yep, nobody's ever thought of this idea before either. You guys are revolutionary!

Who was saying that thiss was a new idea, and how is that relevant anyway?

How about you try not to be stupid for once? plenty of people have explained why it's terrible already.

Why don't you try and stop using sarcasm and insults to hide the fact that you can't come up with a persuasive argument to support your opinion? Besides, the people who thought it was terrible were complaining about the price and having to pay more to get the whole game. Like I said, not only would this be content developed after the game's release, it could also easily become free in the future (if it's not free to begin with).

It'd be like Nintendo's own version of WoW.
Plus tournaments,
The people hosting would have to spend that much PER WII just to get everyone playable.
That'd suck for them.

Could you explain how the WoW system works? Why couldn't the hosts require that attendees have to pay for the updates themselves? If it's anything like Halo 2 (IIRC), then downloading the patch would be free, so a person who hadn't bought new content could still play with others as long as only the old content was used.

 

[the_Capt_Falcon_Master]

i just got a great idea, don't know if its been said before but wouldn't it be awsome if you could download new special moves for each character?

 

[raul]

i just got a great idea, don't know if its been said before but wouldn't it be awsome if you could download new special moves for each character?

No it has not been stated yet. Funny, you bring it up because I too was thinking the same thing, but I was thinking downloading alternative Final Smashes. Example: Link could now become Fierce Deity Link via the downloaded content.

I like where youre going with this, but I think the moves is too broad. It would have ot be specific, such as my final smash example. I think it would be too much to ask Nintendo to develop lots of new moves. With final smashes, it could become random between the original FS develop in the game and the downloaded FS.

As always, appreciate the originality of the posts,
--Raul

 

[the_Capt_Falcon_Master]

i was just thinking about how much more customizable brawl would be if we could switch out each of our character's special moves

 

[Kokaloo]

Could you explain how the WoW system works? Why couldn't the hosts require that attendees have to pay for the updates themselves? If it's anything like Halo 2 (IIRC), then downloading the patch would be free, so a person who hadn't bought new content could still play with others as long as only the old content was used.

Yeah,
You pay extra money for a game that you shouldn't have to pay extra money for in the first place.
Plus I've gone to tourney's that were completely free,
Why would you make someone pay an extra 20 or so dollars just to play a character they might be BEST with.
That's silly.​