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double grenade power

cycon365

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found out how to get two grenades to explode at the same point reliably.

first, the method

1. Shield drop a grenade
2. Now pick it back up
3. Now while the grenade is in your hand, pull out another grenade but do not shield drop it
4. throw new grenade
5. pick up dropped grenade and throw normally
6. Now watch both grenades work their natural mindgame

Control map

B --> Shield --> release shield --> A --> B --> release B --> A --> A
Why should I do this?

If you perform this and your opponent attempts to attack you during the process, you can dodge out and the dropped grenade serves as a counter attack, while the thrown grenade forces your opponent to one side of the stage

after completing the process your opponent attempts to lob a grenade back at you, the secondary grenade will either cause them to shield or they'll get hit.

If your opponent (for whatever reason) doesn't shield at all, you'll cause anywhere from 30-60% damage instead of the usual 12-16%

one grenade is usually higher giving your opponent more lift for an arial attack (if you're comfortable with air attacks)

also, if your opponent catches on and attempts to dodge and attack, you can switch up and leave the dropped grenade to limit the space of the stage

finally, this move can force them to move onto your landmines or C4 which you should have ready for detonation:chuckle:

checked around, didn't see this, but if it is, then ignore I guess
 

SuSa

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I do this to quickly damage myself so Falco can't CG > spike me.

Also have been doing this since the second day of playing Snake.

It's basically Grenade Stripping yourself, however some may not know this.

Also if you Shield Drop > Pick Up > B > Shield Drop, Roll, they should blow up just after the roll.

It's ok, but nothing knew to me, however a few people may not know it :) and nice job figuring it out yourself.
 

cycon365

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Gammomwalker method

"*Exploding TWO Grenades at a Specific Point.
I found this technique to be very unusual. I haven't seen anyone do it, perhaps for being somewhat obvious. However, it is still very useable. For people who haven't seen it before it can be very shocking. It will double (ISN'T THAT SPECIAL) the size of your blast radius and make all the girls jealous when you do 26% dmg off a projectile. I call this...

Getting the Ladies
-Shield drop gren
-Short hop-evade (this will pick up the grenade)
-Press B (this will drop your 1st grenade and throw your 2nd for you)
-Pick up and throw 1st grenade ASAP
-Watch baby Jesus cry.
Alternate Technique 1
-Shield drop gren / pick up grenade ASAP
-Short hop-down A (this will throw the grenade to the ground) you can DI during this too
-Press B (for your 2nd grenade throw)
-Pick up and throw 1st grenade ASAP
-Get laid.
This method is nice because you have an exit option is someone approaches you. You're hands will be free to attack.
Alternate Technique 2
-Shield drop gren / pick up grenade ASAP
-Short hop-press B (for your 2nd grenade throw)
-Pick up and throw 1st grenade
-Sex appeal.
Depending on when you throw the 1st grenade it may or may not fail to detonate the 2nd.
Alternate Technique 3
-Shield drop gren / pick up grenade ASAP
-Roll back
-Press B (for your 2nd grenade throw)
-Pick up and throw 1st grenade
This is the furthest reaching of all the set ups."


ah, didn't see this, although his method is more mobile, guess that would be more effecient
 

cycon365

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since I brought this up anyway, I was wondering if anyone else encountered a glitch?

basically after snake grabs the grenade on occasion he'll pull out his RPG but point it sideways away from the screen
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I 'm using a wiimote, so I'm guess i'm pressing 1+2 while grabbing the grenade, but that's just me


Also, you can fake out with a shield drop grenade if two grenades are on stage already
 

cycon365

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since I brought this up anyway, I was wondering if anyone else encountered a glitch?

basically after snake grabs the grenade on occasion he'll pull out his RPG but point it sideways away from the screen
Figured it out,

it was the wiimote

Shield drop a grenade, pull out a new one, throw it, pick up old one and drop it by pressing B (1 on the wiimote), pick it up one more time, then C-stick foward (1+2 on the wiimote) and snake holds his RPG sideways, but still attacks foward.
 

cycon365

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Can't seem to do that with the GC controller.
somehow i Keep doing it with the wiimote

as soon as I pick it up, I keep 1 held down and press 2 and snakewhips out his RPG sideways

the only benefit is has though is that the grenade cuts off the cool-off time for his Fsmash at the cost of damage

Also went to a basic brawl and pulled it off once
 

cycon365

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okay, I have replay data saved if anyone wants me to send it to them via message board
 

cycon365

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forgot about snapshots :X, if the images are too large, let me know


Pull out grenade


Shield


Press 1+2 at the same time


it can't be charged, so it quickly fires


If you threw a grenade and performed this, it'll explode and cancel the cool-down
If you did this on your first grenade, then you can freely throw it if you aren't punished


My last picture was supposed to show Snake holding it sideways in a clear view, but the snapshot decrypter will not convert it for some reason, so here's D3
 

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They are being sarcastic.

1. Grenade Stripping = Old
2. Smashing while holding item (Hold A then C-stick) = Old

It just happens to make Snake's animation look weird.

3. You can actually charge it on the GC controller, you just Shield Drop > Pick Up with A > Hold A > C-stick > Release A to shoot/Hold it to charge.

I thought this was knew at first :( but you overcomplicated things.
 
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