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Donkey Kong Vs Olimar (How to fight A Gorilla)

Dotcom

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I personally don't have ANY experience in this Match- up yet. his will change today. But i'm banking that some smexy Olimainer has some experience in this match - up will share with us all what to do, and what it takes to win.

I maybe wrong and this is a general concensus on larger characters but still The Only fast moving aerial DK has is his Bair. So it's safe to assume he will DI to his right to try to connect with thd BAir. othert than that i'm pretty sure you can juggle and Pivot grab him quite a Bit. Just out of thought though, don't take me on this seriously just yet.
 

BlackWaltzX

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He can jab you out of grabs. He can jab off pikmin latches unless behind him, which he can then bair or nair. He can grab you at 80% and stage spike you on stages like FD.

He's easy, just run round and throw pikmin. But if you are like me and some other players who aren't like that, then try throwing one pikmin, baiting him so that you can grab him.
YOU CAN EASILY DO WHITE PIKMIN TO GRAB TO PIVOT GRAB TWICE
xD

Don't short hop fair him unless it's from a setup. He can ftilt through everything you have.
Same with smashes, they can jab through them, ftilt and dtilt.

Just play smart and it's easy really.. the DK player won't win unless they play alot of Olimars and know what beats what. (Everything of theirs beats everything of ours nearly.

Also, do tilts more.
 

Graz69

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i think the best way to beat DK as olimar is to keep your distance, grab the **** out of him, throw pikman on him and keep him away with side smash attacks, he cant beat you if he cant hit you.
 

Olimarman

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Keeping your distance in the key. You outrange him, but not by much. He can kill you in the 70s if you aren't careful. Remember, hes fat. Piling on damage through latches and grabs should be easy.
 

DanGR

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I haven't read anything everyone else said.

I played a DK that eventually won the tourney I played him at. I lost the first match, but refocused and won the second. He CP MK, >_> and I lost. Here's some tips.

You've got to play this match kinda like you would against snake. Keep that in mind.

-If he approaches on the ground, DO NOT FSMASH SPAM. You need to grab instead, b/c he's likely to upb you. It'll go through fsmashed pikmin, but won't go through a grab. It'll tear away your shield if you just shield it.

-If he's approaching from the air, don't try to powershield the bairs. It's range and speed are deceptively long and fast.

-Don't edgeguard him aggresively. Just don't. You can try to spike him every once in a while, but don't rely on it. His upb has super armor. Just pick your pikmin, or act like you're going to edgeguard. If you're too close to him, he'll upb across to the other side of the stage. You can act like you're going to do this and punish his landing lag.

-SPAM your whistle when he's edgeguarding you. Don't bother airdodging. His bair is too fast and he can spam it too fast for airdodges to work. Remember, he only needs to hit you once to kill you.

-DON'T jump into the ****. Like seriously. Don't approach him. His ftilt is too good. Only throw pikmin at him and approach to grab every once in a while.

Overall:
You can't play offensively against DK. Just play defensively and camp. If he approaches from the ground, grab. If he approachs from the air, just shieldgrab. He can use his bair twice in a SH. REMEMBER THIS.

Good luck. Just ask if you have any questions about anything I just said.
 

Jadedlink

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Like BlackWaltzX said, his ftilt is nasty. It breaks your grab. That alone makes it difficult to grab DK. Pivot grabs make grabbing a little easier.

Play a ranged game. Stay further away than you think you would need to, because most of DK's attacks have extended hitboxes similar to, but not as good as, Snake's tilts.

And I believe, since he is a heavy character, he can be chain grabbed for a few grabs. Not a truely difficult match up, but you need to realize this isn't just another heavy character. Treat him with caution and it should be ok.
 

Rocann

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everybody has basically given you the lowdown on how to beat him olimar-specifically so here's a general tip that no one has said to keep DK from killing you at 40%

when he tries to stagespike you with his throw against the stage BS you can just walltech it.
 

Puddin

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Donkey is pretty fast for a heavy character, any Olimar with experience against other heavy characters but not DK should not underestimate his speed.

(I dare you all to take my posts seriously with the avatar that I have)
 
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