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Does anyone win the sheik matchup?

Project Crysis

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@Dr. Bread @ Project Crysis Project Crysis you guys are extremely underrating Lucario and sleeping on him. It's not easy to challenge Lucario's recovery, that 'long pause' is actually probably less than a second and extremely hard to react to, and by the time you do he would often already have initiated Extreme Speed and if he landed on stage then he would go unpunished because you tried to punish its startup.

Also Lucario does have a bad neutral.. but he also has the ability to kill Sheik with as simple as bair/side b/fully charged aura sphere. One read or one mistake/punish is all it takes for Lucario to take a stock. Sheik either times out or gets lucky to land a kill setup near the ledge at ~100% or she loses, especially if the Lucario player is clever and bans stages like FD.
Oh no by all means I'm not underrating him it just feels like he doesn't have to much of an edge in the MU. I still think he always has a chance to comeback
 

FrankTheStud

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As a Mario main, I've ways found Sheik to be a fairly difficult matchup, along with Captain Falcon, Yoshi, and Rosalina. While being a difficult matchup, I never felt that I was too overwhelmed, as Sheik really lacks a lot of kill moves, so if she carelessly stacks damage, one good upsmash can end the stock.
While Sheik makes Mario combo food, her attacks individually don't do so much damage, quickly countering her flashy combo with a combo of my own equals out the damage well enough.
My main issue, however, is her needles to bouncing fish setups. I'm a fan of caping projectiles, but against Sheik this doesn't work well, and it's better off that you either air dodge or sheild, somewhat gimping our recovery back to the stage should we get launched, and making us even more predictable. Also, windboxes and damage on her second part of her up+b make her nearly impossible to punish when recovering, which has costed me quite a few games... Perhaps I should try to dash into shield into pivot usmash, as windboxes don't effect shield... Hm...
 
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