Does anyone just PLAY the game?

[MetaKnight0]

No, the question is...

DOES ANYONE REALIZE THAT THERE ARE TOO MANY ADVANCED TECHNIQUE THREADS ALREADY?

Why don't people bring their concerns up in there? It's not like you hold some special hidden insight that deserves it's own topic.

 

[Kentalish]

i play the game u have like 6 friends over 3rd and fourth place switch everytime its fun FUN!!!!!

 

[METROID MAN]

i do. i dont say "forward smash" i say, a button.

 

[Metalknux]

I dont play the game....I just look at it D:

QFT
Perfect use of sarcasm.

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

Are you aware that you are posting on a competitive centric forum? Do not worry the competitive players are the minority when compared to that of so called "casual" players. You should be able to find people "playing just for fun" very easily.

-Knight

True enough.

I ''just play'' the game.

but for me ''playing'' means

1. Always have my brain on, always coming up with new strategies and mixups, always thinking
2. Always trying my utmost hardest to win vs better players than myself, always trying my utmost hardest to improve
3. When I do lose, I think about it. Why did I lose? what could I have done differently?


I also try to use ANY techniques in the game that I can perform, and I play about 15 different characters, 5-6 of which I can whip out in a tournament.

To me smash is great fun, too much fun, so I play it a lot and go to tourneys and that has made me incredibly good at it. But in the end, its all about the fun for me, I Love playing with wacky settings like giant melee or umbrealla madness

Infact ive been playing melee without items for so long that I cant wait to try out the new items in brawl, I just hope the ****in boxes dont explode or we can turn that feature off, because melee with items can be a lot of fun, but the items themselves are weak. The items in brawl seem to be much improved, I cant wait to unleash the fury!

 

[maxieman]

I wish I could use advanced techniques but it all seems too difficult to learn them all let alone be able to think quick enough to use them in game

 

[drengist]

Regarding to plain "playing" (I know what you mean), well, I used to do just that - just try to have fun and try different stuff with different characters and items. Then I got bored. My and my friends' skills began to improve dramatically. Suddenly we were only playing no-item, 3-stock battles on Final Destination. So, I think serious playing is just a natural step after casual play. It makes great games, like Smash Bros. so everlasting and popular.

 

[veil222]

It's been the opposite for me, I learned the techs pretty fast and got into tournaments, but my old casual group doesn't have much fun playing with me anymore unless we do crazy stuff. It's gotten a bit boring working on nothing but tech combos and mindgames

 

[Jazriel]

And I take offense at your post, Jazriel. D:

Good. You're allowing the world to see how incompetent and worthless you are.

The ironic part is that while you're willing to allow others to see you for who you are, you don't allow yourself to understand what you are. You fail to realize how pathetic you are with your defence "I play just for fun." You fail to understand the implications of that statement, and because of that, you fail at life.



Because I can:http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_PlayToWinPart1.htm


The pathetic excuse "just play for fun" is exactly that, a pathetic excuse. It is an excuse made by people who are incapable of playing with purpose. Made by people who fail to understand that competence in something is a glorious feeling and that they should be proud of the fact that they have mastered something to the best of their ability.

The people who "just play for fun" are the bane of existence. They are cowards, they are weak, and they are not really living.

Why do I play smash? I play smash because I can. I love the game, I love the concept, and I love my ability to play the game fully and competently. If wavedashing will give me an edge, I'll do it. If L-canceling will give me an edge, will improve my ability to play fairly and competently, I'll do it.

If another person wishes to challange me on reasonable grounds, I'll accept. All because I enjoy the aspect of my life that is Smash.


You who "just play for fun" deny the idea of playing because you can. You play, not because you love the game, but because you think you love the game. You think that being competent is actually incompetence and you fabricate these "rules" that say "playing seriously means you play without fun". You fabricate these ideas, that one cannot enjoy what they do and show competence in what they are doing. You believe that because I have passion about the game, and because I Play To Win, I must obviously be a failure.

The excuse to "just play for fun" sickens me, because it represents the stupidity of humanity. How can you play for fun if you refuse to play correctly? How can you play for fun if you live in a fantasy world, where only you can enjoy the game and anyone who says they enjoy the game and are better than you at it (which of course they will be) obviously cannot be enjoying the game as much as you can.

You think that because I don't play with items, I'm playing in a way that means "no fun". What your fabricated rules fail to allow you to realize, is that the option for items spawning exists for a reason. You fail to understand that dieing by fluke to a bomb-omb isn't fun if it means I lose and you win.

You closet yourself in the idea that if you die to a bomb-omb that's merely "the game" but if I die to a bomb-omb it's proof that items should exist. You can not understand the idea of a person wishing to express their competence in the game by playing in a way that relies solely on skill. You can not understand what means to Play To Win.

Whoever says "I play just for fun" is a failure at life and should be killed. Not like they were living anyways.

Whoever says "I play just for fun" is an imbecile who can not possibly understand what the concept of fun is, let alone understand and experience fun.

 

[Pookiez]

ATs give the game more depth which means it makes it more fun to play... seriously I don't overly think about the game while doing ATs they come as second nature already... what i do spend time thinking about is what my opponent is going to do next. and that is something that you would have to think about regardless of using ATs or not.

 

[veil222]

games =/= life, suggesting someone should be killed for being a casual player shows the kind of person you are and how little you value people that have different ideas than you. You're just as bad as he is stating a blunt *opinion* like that. I play games for fun, I play them up to a proficiency level where it stops being about fun. For different games that's different levels. And you're saying I should be *killed* for that? There's no need to even explain how flawed that idea is.

Why should we even read your posts or care about what you say if you don't give a **** about others? This is a place of community, everyone here plays smash because they have fun playing it, and it should be a place we can benefit from eachothers ideas and opinions. Instead you're spouting off at the mouth about some philosophy to living in reguards to an *effing video game*, get a grip, or nothing you say will have any value, and thus, no wieght to anyone who thinks differently than you.

I wish the mods banned for agression like that in Jazriel's post, it contributes *nothing*.
/rant off

I see what the TC is saying in reference to moderate and casual play, and it's something that's been discussed alot lately through all the spammed topics about techs. The best way to deal with it in brawl, is to play how you want, and only play with people who are willing to play like that too. Don't disrespect someone for their play style and act like their somehow inferior as a human being, it's a **** game. Have fun, if you're not having fun, do something else.

 

[Star105]

yes people do play the game just for fun (like me) and there are people who want to play it competitively so just let them play the game.

 

[GreatClayMonkey]

I do and yeah i know what you mean how people Just talk about "advance techniches" and how items suck.

 

[Dubyah8r]

Wow. I never reallized how many over-competive stuck-up douchebags played this game. It is a GAME people, play it however you want as long as you have fun it doesn't mattter if you wavedash, L-cancel or any of that. Anyone who thinks people who don't do that are lesser then them should be shot in the face.

 

[AR_Sam]

For a really long time I played without the advanced techniques, but only because I was totally unaware of them. Once I found out about them I was so glad. It's because these techniques add a whole new depth to the game that makes it fun even after 6 years. I can understand why people who don't know about the advanced techniques don't use them. What I don't understand is people who know about the advanced techniques and don't use them. OK, so you don't want to learn every little trick to the game, that's fine. But why not pick and choose and use some of the advanced techniques. Why? Because the more advanced techniques you can implement the deeper the game is. Key word in there is IMPLEMENT. You can have all the tech skill in the world and still be awful at smash.

 

[GA Peach]

to everyone that this applies to - you've all taken the time to register on a forum that is a major resource for competitive Smash Bros. players. you've also taken time out of your lives to sit down and play this game, meaning you care about it to some degree. so, if it's something you care about, then why not play it to its fullest? just like everything you want to do in life, why not be the best you can be at smash? you've already taken the time to do the aforementioned things, and having this trait to try your hardest at all things you do is good for life, not just video games. at the same time, if you are trying these things and are failing at smash, using "i just play for fun" is a pretty self-destructive attitude, as this style of thinking can leak over to other aspects of life. from my own experiences, friends that you play with can be a detrimental thing, as well, if they aren't interested in getting better at whatever you are interested in. for smash, people i know won't even play with me anymore because i got better than them, but why let that stop you? pretty silly, if you ask me. i think that sums what is being said as of now...

P.S. - while i think playing on a tournament level is a lot of fun, thinking people who don't are inferior human beings is ridiculous, as well. while i disagree with the people's "just play for fun" attitude, i don't think of them any less. it IS, after all, a video game, and nothing worth snubbing people over, if there is such a thing.

 

[SolidSonic]

Yes I "just played" the past two installments. It is basically impossible not to put any thought into how you play though, everyone uses their noggin in some form or fashion.

Sigh, another idiot who expects enjoyment to come from a lack of thought. How can you play the game and not think? When you're knocked off and need to recover, do you decide that the thought to determine your direction is too tedious? Do you merely recover away from the stage because you're too lazy to consider that fighting will possibly give you more than merely fleeing? Are you ruled by instinct, yet satisfied to live in a mire of incompetence? Truly, your existence is worthless.

Learn to play with purpose or don't play at all. Though, amusingly enough, if you "play" even though you put no thought into it, you're not really playing. And you will be beaten by anyone who can put thought into the game.


Essentially: EPIC FAILURE.

Well there you have it folks, the nerd patrol pretty much has this thread on lock down.

Bitter, negative, and always condescending.

Thats what we do here at nerd patrol.

[seriously you need to go outside and take a deep breath..]

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

Wow. I never reallized how many over-competive stuck-up douchebags played this game. It is a GAME people, play it however you want as long as you have fun it doesn't mattter if you wavedash, L-cancel or any of that. Anyone who thinks people who don't do that are lesser then them should be shot in the face.

Thinks? They are lesser. In the game. I dont see why we would take a debate about a video game and apply it to outside life. That's highly irrational and quite immature.

If you wavedash and L cancel and your opponent doesn't in melee, chances are he is your ''lesser'' because he's too lazy to even reduce the lag of his aerial attacks, he deserves to lose and probably will.


@ Jazriel

I understand completly what you're saying and why you're getting worked up over it. But believe you me these elitist casuals are not worth your time.

They're going to keep telling you that they have fun when they play with items, and that by wavedashing or L cancelling you automatically put on a business suit and start to play super smash brothers for a monthly salary and treat it with more seriousness than you would your newborn child.

Its absurd, but they'll keep insisting that you don't have fun when you play, when fun is an entirely subjective concept.

The best strategy is to ignore them, when you get mad at them like you are right now (and I have done like... six million times) they just get a laugh out of you.

Well there you have it folks, the nerd patrol pretty much has this thread on lock down.

Bitter, negative, and always condescending.

Thats what we do here at nerd patrol.

Excuse me? His post actually made sense, and was bound by logic. Your post is insulting, spam, and worthless. I am reporting you immediatly.

Sigh, another idiot who expects enjoyment to come from a lack of thought. How can you play the game and not think? When you're knocked off and need to recover, do you decide that the thought to determine your direction is too tedious? Do you merely recover away from the stage because you're too lazy to consider that fighting will possibly give you more than merely fleeing? Are you ruled by instinct, yet satisfied to live in a mire of incompetence?

Brilliant.

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

My goodness, another "lower the hoop so everyone can slam dunk" thread. Why do people choose this game to complain about being taken too seriously? If you do not care about advanced techniques and whatnot, go play Mario Party 8. I have that game for when casual gamers visit my apartment. It really is all about generic "fun" because anyone can win, and I laugh my head off seeing the random outcomes of every match. Smash offers a much deeper experience. Just play casually! No one is stopping you! You don't hear us competitive players running around shouting, "Casual players annoy me! We should ban walking and force them to wavedash all over the stage! It's not fair that we have to sink to their level! Wah wah wah!"

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

"lower the hoop so everyone can slam dunk" thread.

Buzz you are my hero. If we had babies they would grow up to be logical debating warriors.

"Casual players annoy me! We should ban walking and force them to wavedash all over the stage! It's not fair that we have to sink to their level! Wah wah wah!"

Strangly enough, Ive been getting rapidly better at smash over the course of the past few months, (from a nobody, to someone who is now known and respected by the top players in canada and they know my potential too)

and I find myself wavedashing less, using walking more...

Its really not in the techniques people, smash is a strategy game, and you have to know your spacing, hitboxes, approach, mindgames, edgeguarding, and another billion other things like the back of your hand if you wanna be the best.

Otherwise, play casually. No one is going to stop you, but you will never casually climb your way to becoming the best player in the world, you need to use your brain because super smash bros is a STRATEGY game above all.

 

[SolidSonic]

Excuse me? His post actually made sense, and was bound by logic. Your post is insulting, spam, and worthless. I am reporting you immediatly.

The second part of my post might have been off topic, but the first part was not. Oh and like I give a **** if you report me, lmao.

I'm just sick of all the stuck up nerds around here who go around deeming everything to be an "epic failure".

Its childish and incredibly annoying since so many people do it.

 

[Gimpyfish62]

bye bye thread

*bowser fsmash*