Official DLC Character Discussion Thread - Read the new sticky/announcement

[Morbi]

Man a Character that could use a mix of everyone's moves sounds both amazing and a pain to program

They would probably go for the less amazing, but also less painful approach. That is, they would not use a mix of everyone's moves and instead pick and choose.

 

[sandslash]

I would only think eggman or tails would be ok but I don't really even like the idea. Other Sega characters like toe jam and earl battletoads and earthworm Jim are from big games but don't have a big enough following. I think megaman ryu and sonic are all the perfect representation because these are the only he franchises in my opinion big enough and these are the faces of those titles.

 

[RobinOnDrugs]

Has anyone ever had it in the back of their head that Nintendo could just go "The Ballot is closed. Thank you for your participation!" and leave it at that after the deadline has been reached?

 

[ZeldaMaster]

So now we're talking about Ow tHe EDGE?

 

[Schnee117]

I would only think eggman or tails would be ok but I don't really even like the idea. Other Sega characters like toe jam and earl battletoads and earthworm Jim are from big games but don't have a big enough following. I think megaman ryu and sonic are all the perfect representation because these are the only he franchises in my opinion big enough and these are the faces of those titles.

Battletoads belong to Rare who are owned by MS (*insert silly MS hate comment here*). Earthworm Jim belongs to Interplay.

 

[Talpr1]

Has anyone ever had it in the back of their head that Nintendo could just go "The Ballot is closed. Thank you for your participation!" and leave it at that after the deadline has been reached?

I actually think they will reveal a character immediatly, but then they will drag the thing with something like "He's not the only character coming, stay tuned for more news!" to keep people interested and hyped.

 

[Wolfie557]

Send your HD refrence images of characters you want to SmashifiedArt@gmail.

I'm sending ones for Impa, Slime/Hero, Bayonetta (make sure they do her good) and Medusa.

 

[Bradli Wartooth]

Send your HD refrence images of characters you want to SmashifiedArt@gmail.

I'm sending ones for Impa, Slime/Hero, Bayonetta (make sure they do her good) and Medusa.

Look, Smashified is cool and all, but it doesn't really belong here imo. It has nothing to do with DLC character development.

 

[Wolfie557]

I have a feeling we will only get 1 more veteran for DLC.

Anyway, here's a good video on the more stages thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PBQ1Rx70t4

 

[JaidynReiman]

Has anyone ever had it in the back of their head that Nintendo could just go "The Ballot is closed. Thank you for your participation!" and leave it at that after the deadline has been reached?

Yes, several people have suggested that. However, I don't think they will do it that way.

I have a feeling we will only get 1 more veteran for DLC.

Anyway, here's a good video on the more stages thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PBQ1Rx70t4

Most people think we'll only get 1 more veteran, if that. I'm of the opinion that we won't even get another veteran if we've only got 2 DLC characters.

 

[Bradli Wartooth]

Most people think we'll only get 1 more veteran, if that. I'm of the opinion that we won't even get another veteran if we've only got 2 DLC characters.

Has anything official suggested that there are only 2 characters left, though?

 

[aldelaro5]

Has anything official suggested that there are only 2 characters left, though?

The ryu updates had 2 unused characters slots essentially confiming that AT LEAST there's 2 characters left.

There's a theory that we would be getting that amount, but there's no way to tell. Personally, I think 2 OR 3 are kinda likely with 2 being much more, but I think 4 is where it starts to be unlikely.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Has anything official suggested that there are only 2 characters left, though?

No, but a lot of people think so because of the "two slots" left in the roster, and because the Wii U roster can only fit two more characters, plus there's enough room for two more characters on certain views of the website's character list you see at the bottom of various pages.


Its all just a series of coincidences, though.

The ryu updates had 2 unused characters slots essentially confiming that AT LEAST there's 2 characters left.

There's a theory that we would be getting that amount, but there's no way to tell. Personally, I think 2 OR 3 are kinda likely with 2 being much more, but I think 4 is where it starts to be unlikely.

No, it doesn't. They could've just as easily threw in a random number of extra slots because they knew they had more characters they wanted to do, but didn't know how many.


Personally I think we're getting 3-5, probably 4.

 

[Deleted member]

Wolf and 3-4 Ballot characters is my bet.

Although deep in my heart and mind i know that only 2 characters left is a real possibility.

 

[Bradli Wartooth]

I would think 4 new characters total left:

1 vet and 3 new
Or
2 vet and 2 new

Of course this is all based on what Sakurai feels like providing. He could easily give us Wolf and be done. And they left that as a wildly strong option for him, as they said the ballot would effect future titles. Sigh. We'll never really know til they say it's done.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

There's nothing confirming any sort of amount of characters. I would like to think they'd do more than 2 more DLC characters. For all we know, that's just in the files because they wanted to take care of those slots.

Obviously, Smash DLC will end at some point because they can't keep the team forever. It's also not like they couldn't come back to it sometime down the road. For now, because it's basically all we know, it's probably safest to assume we're only getting two more. But I certainly wouldn't rule out a few more afterward.

 

[Wolfie557]

I think it will be 3 just because.

 

[aldelaro5]

No, but a lot of people think so because of the "two slots" left in the roster, and because the Wii U roster can only fit two more characters, plus there's enough room for two more characters on certain views of the website's character list you see at the bottom of various pages.


Its all just a series of coincidences, though.




No, it doesn't. They could've just as easily threw in a random number of extra slots because they knew they had more characters they wanted to do, but didn't know how many.


Personally I think we're getting 3-5, probably 4.

......ok I feel you missunderstood quite hard here.

I said that 2 unused slots were found.

This means that they would intend to AT LEAST do 2 because otherwise, I HARDLY think they only intended one.....seriously, even without the slots, I would hardly believe that, but with the slots....I have no reasons to think that.

So what you are trying to tell me is they could have put an intentionally overkill amount of slots and yet.....the only chance it would happen is if they put only 1 character hence why I think it is safe to assume it means at least (not equal) to 2.

Seriously you replied like I was saying that it means 2 and only 2, no I meant AT LEAST 2.

I even told I believed that 2-3 were the msot likely and 4 for me starts to be unlikely!

 

[JaidynReiman]

......ok I feel you missunderstood quite hard here.

I said that 2 unused slots were found.

This means that they would intend to AT LEAST do 2 because otherwise, I HARDLY think they only intended one.....seriously, even without the slots, I would hardly believe that, but with the slots....I have no reasons to think that.

So what you are trying to tell me is they could have put an intentionally overkill amount of slots and yet.....the only chance it would happen is if they put only 1 character hence why I think it is safe to assume it means at least (not equal) to 2.

Seriously you replied like I was saying that it means 2 and only 2, no I meant AT LEAST 2.

I even told I believed that 2-3 were the msot likely and 4 for me starts to be unlikely!

No, I didn't misunderstand what you said.


My point is, people put too much emphasis on the slots which in reality mean NOTHING. What tells us we're getting at least two is Sakurai's own statement, not the stupid slots which are totally pointless and should not be used at all. Supposedly there's two stage slots left, but the current actual stage roster pages in-game fits those like crap, too. The roster selection in-game fits better right now with either 1 or 3-4 stages left, but only 2 stages left does not fit in with anything else. And if the stage slots are pointless, what makes the character slots any better?


People are constantly trying to use those slots to assume they mean something. I'm saying that we should ignore them because they don't mean anything.

 

[Rosalinatehplumber]

No, I didn't misunderstand what you said.


My point is, people put too much emphasis on the slots which in reality mean NOTHING. What tells us we're getting at least two is Sakurai's own statement, not the stupid slots which are totally pointless and should not be used at all. Supposedly there's two stage slots left, but the current actual stage roster pages in-game fits those like crap, too. The roster selection in-game fits better right now with either 1 or 3-4 stages left, but only 2 stages left does not fit in with anything else. And if the stage slots are pointless, what makes the character slots any better?


People are constantly trying to use those slots to assume they mean something. I'm saying that we should ignore them because they don't mean anything.

Sakurai did say several characters from the fan service. Meaning that we will get at least 3. But if that's the case, the Wii U roster would look messy.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Sakurai did say several characters from the fan service. Meaning that we will get at least 3. But if that's the case, the Wii U roster would look messy.

Doesn't it already?

 

[Rosalinatehplumber]

Doesn't it already?

Well yes, but I meant that two more characters would make the roster full on the Wii U. But, I suppose they can shrink it a little but will they have enough room? If there's more than 2, wouldn't they need to have 4 more characters to make it full again because I can't see six characters coming.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Well yes, but I meant that two more characters would make the roster full on the Wii U. But, I suppose they can shrink it a little but will they have enough room? If there's more than 2, wouldn't they need to have 4 more characters to make it full again because I can't see six characters coming.

So? Why does the roster NEED to fill up all slots? Just look at the 3DS version upon release. Not even the Wii U version looked complete.


The roster isn't going to be filled up to the brim upon release, there's always going to be gaps.

 

[Rosalinatehplumber]

So? Why does the roster NEED to fill up all slots? Just look at the 3DS version upon release. Not even the Wii U version looked complete.


The roster isn't going to be filled up to the brim upon release, there's always going to be gaps.

Ah, thanks for the clarification

 

[Wintropy]

It's fun to speculate, but I think this is the most disoriented we've been in terms of what to expect. DLC is a totally new concept for Smash with no precedent to work off of, we don't have the faintest notion what's going to happen.

Which is both exciting and disconcerting. I'm gonna remain positive, but I don't know what to expect.

 

[Giga Kaiju]

^ And if you add the "SAKURAI FACTOR", well, anything is possible...

Has anyone ever had it in the back of their head that Nintendo could just go "The Ballot is closed. Thank you for your participation!" and leave it at that after the deadline has been reached?

As a matter of fact, that's what I'm expecting at this point. Then, cue more waiting.

 

[Twin Shot]

The Ballot is more for Nintendos benefit then ours. They are getting consumer information from this poll which they can use to evaluate their business strategy.
(Use the Privacy Policy link on the Ballot for more)

Nintendo never said that they would create a character based on votes either - simply that they would consider it.

I do think that hopes are up - and I would hope Nintendo knows this, so I think they will actually release an "easy" to implement character or two a few months after the end of the Ballot (Falco Diddy for Dixie, for example).

The purpose of the ballot is similar to the post 64 one.

5mash NX will release "early" after the launch of the new system and incorporate more of these ballot/new characters and bring all the stages and characters back from BOTH versions of Sm4sh (With working Popos and Nanas), which makes sense if you think about what the NX is. Also this will give us our "complete" version of the game incorporating the prior DLC until the start of the DLC cycle for the next game.

Would get a stronger release title for the NX, keep Sakurai on longer, and development/implementation are able to reuse overlapping resources saving time and money.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

It's fun to speculate, but I think this is the most disoriented we've been in terms of what to expect. DLC is a totally new concept for Smash with no precedent to work off of, we don't have the faintest notion what's going to happen.

Which is both exciting and disconcerting. I'm gonna remain positive, but I don't know what to expect.

The only real major change from pre-Smash 4 to DLC confirmed is that there is a greater emphasis on fanservice. Outside of that, nothing has changed to justify a whole new look at who is likely or not and all of Sakurai's criterias such as uniqueness and such, still applies. Though to be fair, that one sole change does make a major difference- this means that any surprise characters we get will be popular but unexpected instead of characters who were unpopular and obscure among the Smash fanbase due to the whole "it's going to be fanservice from now on" statement. This is a natural consequence of the fact that each DLC character has to sell well enough to be worth the effort, time and money invested in them.

 

[Bradli Wartooth]

I would hope Nintendo could recognize that they may actually gain a level of hatred from fans if they never make a DLC character from the ballot. I'm not saying I'm one of those people, but the disappointment it'd create would be historically large within the fanbase. I would think that just to keep people happy with the company, they HAVE to release at least 1 more character post ballot. But they may not feel the same way.

 

[Deleted member]

http://nintendoeverything.com/shantae-and-the-pirates-curse-seeing-physical-release-in-japan/

And a huge punch into Shantae detractors' guts.

Good.

 

[Talpr1]

http://nintendoeverything.com/shantae-and-the-pirates-curse-seeing-physical-release-in-japan/

And a huge punch into Shantae detractors' guts.

Good.

This kind of post would be better left for when the game actually sells well there.

 

[Dastardly Ridleylash]

This kind of post would be better left for when the game actually sells well there.

Japan's always been a huge place for these sorts of games, and Pirate's Curse is already extremely popular, so I don't see why it won't be at least moderately sucessful in Japan.

 

[Deleted member]

http://nintendoeverything.com/shantae-and-the-pirates-curse-seeing-physical-release-in-japan/

And a huge punch into Shantae detractors' guts.

Good.

Shantae Amiibo when?

Though beign serious for a moment, i expect Shantae to do well in Japan thanks to it's artstyle and such.

 

[Bebe Mignon]

Going a bit off-topic, but does anybody know what's going to happen to the DLC character threads after the Ballot ends? Will they be closed? Or will they be kept open for Smash 5 speculation?

 

[Kenith]

Going a bit off-topic, but does anybody know what's going to happen to the DLC character threads after the Ballot ends? Will they be closed? Or will they be kept open for Smash 5 speculation?

If the Assist Trophy "deconfirmed" character threads are any indication, they will be closed.

 

[Bebe Mignon]

If the Assist Trophy "deconfirmed" character threads are any indication, they will be closed.

That'd be disappointing. It would kill my interest of coming back here until Smash 5 is officially announced.

 

[Kenith]

That'd be disappointing. It would kill my interest of coming back here until Smash 5 is officially announced.

Well, now you know how I feel. All of the characters I support for DLC don't get a thread because of what people don't "think" will happen.

 

[FalKoopa]

I'll add that you can go to Nintenzone to talk about Smash 5.

The speculation threads will be closed down after the last DLC character is released, not after the ballot ends, though.

 

[JaidynReiman]

I'll add that you can go to Nintenzone to talk about Smash 5.

The speculation threads will be closed down after the last DLC character is released, not after the ballot ends, though.

That's what I was pretty sure was going to happen. Until they confirm DLC is over, the threads will remain open.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

@Burruni saying that Gilgamesh would be a perfect AT made me realize something. If any SE characters got in, Gilgamesh would make the most sense as he's incredibly popular and travels through worlds, hell, you could say he thought the Smash Ball was a sword and it'd make sense