Differences between 4 and 5

[RODO]

Since the 3DS and Wii U versions are being considered two different games, I've been starting to theorize that some gameplay mechanics and some physics might be different between the two games. Maybe the 3DS would be more casual friendly and the Wii U be more fine tuned with for instance maybe the game just being faster in general or something. Idk what it is but something lately has been telling me that these games are going to be more different than we are being led to believe but who knows, it's all just speculation and they very well could just be the same game with different stages. Thoughts? Maybe the wait for E3 has finally made me go insane

 

[Kokusho]

Stop saying the 3DS is for casual. The 3DS have more hardcore title than most plateforms. Of course Smash4WiiU will be the competitive version of choice because of same screen mutiplayer, better visual, and will have more stuff, but the core of the game should be the exact same.
The 3DS is not an iphone. You don't play candy crush on 3DS...

 

[Deleted member 245254]

They will be exactly the same, mechanics-wise.

 

[Cap'nChreest]

They will be exactly the same, mechanics-wise.

How do you know? Actually yea thats seems to most likely.

I've been wondering if there would be differences too. There could be some different exploits. Other than that though I'd imagine they are pretty much the same.

 

[Hayzie]

If there is a difference in speed/physics, it will be minuscule, and only due to playtests on how it affects playing on a smaller screen. Other than certain content such as stages and trophies, the game will play the same.

Stop saying the 3DS is for casual. The 3DS have more hardcore title than most plateforms. Of course Smash4WiiU will be the competitive version of choice because of same screen mutiplayer, better visual, and will have more stuff, but the core of the game should be the exact same.
The 3DS is not an iphone. You don't play candy crush on 3DS...

lol this, but most importantly that last line.

 

[RODO]

Stop saying the 3DS is for casual. The 3DS have more hardcore title than most plateforms. Of course Smash4WiiU will be the competitive version of choice because of same screen mutiplayer, better visual, and will have more stuff, but the core of the game should be the exact same.
The 3DS is not an iphone. You don't play candy crush on 3DS...

I was using an example of how they could be different. Read a little before you jump on me. I never once said the 3DS version was more casual.

In reply to the people who say they will be exactly the same I'm inclined to agree but we cannot say that it's 100% factual that will be the case.

 

[Kokusho]

Fair enough.
The thing is, Nintendo don't do hardcore focused game. Ever. In any shape or form. They do games that anyone can play. Welcoming all, with or without prior knowledge, whether it be for 3DS or Wii U. Then comes the depth of the game itself, if it's complex and compeling enough then you'll be able to label it as target for core gamer.
In that sens, we 're pretty sure that gameplay wise, mecanics wise, both game will be the same. So it will be appealing to both casual and hardcore player.
That being said, Wii U will most likely have more competitive feature added to make it more compelling in the long run, feature that are outside of the core gameplay, like tournament mode, online stuff, replay, etc, etc, because everybody knows that the Wii U version will be the best fitted for performances (due to controller, screen estate, visual, etc etc).

 

[RODO]

Fair enough.
The thing is, Nintendo don't do hardcore focused game. Ever. In any shape or form. They do games that anyone can play. Welcoming all, with or without prior knowledge, whether it be for 3DS or Wii U. Then comes the depth of the game itself, if it's complex and compeling enough then you'll be able to label it as target for core gamer.
In that sens, we 're pretty sure that gameplay wise, mecanics wise, both game will be the same. So it will be appealing to both casual and hardcore player.
That being said, Wii U will most likely have more competitive feature added to make it more compelling in the long run, feature that are outside of the core gameplay, like tournament mode, online stuff, replay, etc, etc, because everybody knows that the Wii U version will be the best fitted for performances (due to controller, screen estate, visual, etc etc).

I disagree completely. Nintendo has done plenty of hardcore focused games. Even the family friendly ones can have a hardcore aspect to them.

 

[Kokusho]

No they don't do games for hardcore,
They do games with depth (mostly-ish, less latelly, but still) so hardcore player will find something to get into but they're not the main focus. A game focus at hardcore is a game that doesn't care about easing you in, a game that espect you to know the basics of the genre before playing it and will most likely punish you if you don't know. Hardcore FOCUSED games are games that doesn't hold your hand, even at start and play to their strengh, supposedly very depth and complex mecanics or very precises skill requierement.
Nintendo, on their good titles, are approaching things a little bit like Blizzard "Easy to learn, difficult to master". Blizzard are always criticized for appealing to much to the casual, yet most blizzard ends up being played quite a lot by hardcore player. All great Nintendo games are like that. They ease you in, hold your hand for a while and let you discoverd the depth of the gameplay by yourself. They re not focused at hardcore, but they're still appealing for them.

 

[2ndComing]

No they don't do games for hardcore,
They do games with depth (mostly-ish, less latelly, but still) so hardcore player will find something to get into but they're not the main focus. A game focus at hardcore is a game that doesn't care about easing you in, a game that espect you to know the basics of the genre before playing it and will most likely punish you if you don't know. Hardcore FOCUSED games are games that doesn't hold your hand, even at start and play to their strengh, supposedly very depth and complex mecanics or very precises skill requierement.

What about Metroid sir and Donkey Kong? Especially DKCR and DKCTF, those games are way too hard for casuals and are made for a hardcore market. I should know, I was a casual as a kid and could barely get past the second world of DKCR

Saying Nintendo doesn't make games for hardcore is rather ignorant in a sense because they constantly do things for us (more recently than before but still)

edit: Actually your are contradicting yourself because you say the 3ds has more Hardcore titles than most consoles (while that isn't true at all) and I know you are going to say "hardcore game doesn't mean its hardcore focused, that is a contradiction because its a hardcore game, it can't be a hardcore game if it isn't a focus

 

[2ndComing]

Stop saying the 3DS is for casual. The 3DS have more hardcore title than most plateforms. Of course Smash4WiiU will be the competitive version of choice because of same screen mutiplayer, better visual, and will have more stuff, but the core of the game should be the exact same.
The 3DS is not an iphone. You don't play candy crush on 3DS...

But you do play Angry Birds and Cut the Rope so....

 

[Tornado_Man]

What about Metroid sir and Donkey Kong? Especially DKCR and DKCTF, those games are way too hard for casuals and are made for a hardcore market. I should know, I was a casual as a kid and could barely get past the second world of DKCR

Saying Nintendo doesn't make games for hardcore is rather ignorant in a sense because they constantly do things for us (more recently than before but still)

Not to mention Nintendo did state a while back that they're taking a new approach of appealing to both the hardcore and casual market.

 

[2ndComing]

Not to mention Nintendo did state a while back that they're taking a new approach of appealing to both the hardcore and casual market.

I have been looking for the quote for SO LONG, can you please link that to me

 

[Tornado_Man]

I have been looking for the quote for SO LONG, can you please link that to me

It was way back in 2011 or 2012, so it'd take way too long for me to look. I'll see if I can, though

 

[2ndComing]

It was way back in 2011 or 2012, so it'd take way too long for me to look. I'll see if I can, though

Thanks dood, but you don't have to

 

[LancerStaff]

There simply won't be major differences because that'd kill the only advantage to making them at the same time, which is the shared mechanics and balance. At most, one might get an update before the other.

 

[ScottyWK]

If there is ANY difference, it would be pretty minor. After all, SSBU comes out 6 months later, so that's plenty of time for developers to tweak this that and the other.

 

[Celestis]

They will be exactly the same, mechanics-wise.

actually, from what I can see in the video we have so far. 3DS version will be slower and more floaty like Brawl, where as the Wii U version will have the speed buff. This makes perfect sense too, keep down on the abuse on the handheld.

 

[LancerStaff]

actually, from what I can see in the video we have so far. 3DS version will be slower and more floaty like Brawl, where as the Wii U version will have the speed buff. This makes perfect sense too, keep down on the abuse on the handheld.

Not so fast, there. What people see, and what actually is are often two different things. We've seen enough for a frame-by-frame, direct comparison, there should only be full hops and short hops with nothing between based on past games, and we even know fastfalls cause a flash like SSB64. I don't think people should be saying this until somebody makes a direct comparison.

 

[Reila]

actually, from what I can see in the video we have so far. 3DS version will be slower and more floaty like Brawl, where as the Wii U version will have the speed buff. This makes perfect sense too, keep down on the abuse on the handheld.

The speed looks about the same in both versions. Care to post a video (with the exact time) where the 3DS version looks slower?

Anyway, I find funny people calling the 3DS version "casual". The same 3DS that holds some of the most hardcore modern games, like Monster Hunter.

 

[wafflini]

Not so fast, there. What people see, and what actually is are often two different things. We've seen enough for a frame-by-frame, direct comparison, there should only be full hops and short hops with nothing between based on past games, and we even know fastfalls cause a flash like SSB64. I don't think people should be saying this until somebody makes a direct comparison.

thank you