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[Dec 13, 2014] 1 FISH: Melee/Wii U/PM Tournament at RPI (Troy, NY)

tiger10x

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FISH is RPI Smash Club's and Pastime Legends' new local upstate New York series featuring Super Smash Bros. for Wii U, Melee and Project M 3.5!

IMPORTANT NEW COUNTERPICK RULES: See Smash 4 ruleset below for details and explanation. Spoiler: winner character, loser character, winner ban stage(s), loser picks stage.

Schedule:
9:00am: Venue opens
11:00am: Project M singles*
11:30pm: Wii U teams*
2:00pm: Wii U singles**
2:30pm: Melee teams**
5:00pm: Melee singles
12am: Venue closes

*Cannot enter both PM singles and Wii U teams.
**Cannot enter both Wii U singles and Melee teams.

Registration for each event will go until the time listed, and then seeding/pool-making takes place. Events may include pools and amateur bracket depending on total attendance and setups. Side events are unlikely unless there is both time and interest.


Prices:
NO VENUE FEE!
$10 singles each ($5 if RPI student)
$10 teams entry (per team)

PLEASE BRING WII U SETUPS!

Stream: http://twitch.tv/pastimelegends/


Where:

Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Student Union in Troy, NY at the intersection of Sage Ave and 15th St.

The tournament room is on the first floor, in a room called "Mother's." We'll have signs up directing people there. This room was used for most of the BEST tournament series.

If coming by car, there is ample parking, and it is free on the weekends. If coming by bus or train, contact the TO and we will arrange for you to be picked up. We can provide housing overnight if necessary. Contact us beforehand or post here.


Payouts:

Singles
1st - 55%
2nd - 30%
3rd - 10%
4th - 5%

Doubles
1st - 60%
2nd - 30%
3rd - 10%


Wii U Rules (tentative, up for discussion)

2 stock, 6 minutes
Best of 3, Best of 5 top 3
Items off and none
Custom fighters are banned

Stages

Neutral:
Battlefield
Smashville
Town and City
Lylat Cruise
Final Destination*

Counterpick:
Omega*
Duck Hunt
Castle Siege
Skyloft
Delfino Plaza
Halberd
Kongo Jungle 64

*If Final Destination is banned, all Omega stages are banned.


NEW COUNTERPICK RULES (applies to all games)
1. Winner picks character
2. Loser picks character
3. Winner bans stages*
4. Loser picks stage

*Game-specific bans:

Smash 4 and PM: Ban 2 stages; step 4 includes Dave’s Stupid Rule (loser may not pick a stage they won).

Melee: Winner bans one stage and may ban up to one additional stage on which he or she has lost during this set.



Other than the new counterpick rule, Melee and PM standard rulesets will apply. We will update this with a stage list and specifics if necessary.


Counterpick change explanation (also up for discussion)

Character matchups should determine the stage selection and bans. It makes more sense to ban a stage when characters are known. Otherwise there are scenarios where an opponent can select a seemingly balanced stage but then switch to a character with a large advantage on that stage. In a case where the characters are already known, it is likely that such an advantageous stage would be banned. With Smash 4 having far more matchups, there are more opportunities for such significant counterpicks.

Locking characters before selecting the stage prevents the winner from turning the counterpick matchup against the loser. Taking Melee/PM as an example, a Fox may counterpick a Samus to Final Destination only to find that the Samus player also has any pocket character with chain grabs. Despite this rewarding the winner for having more diversity in characters, the loser should not be placed at a disadvantage for choosing a stage based on the matchup that wasn't going to happen.

This change weakens the surprise factor for counterpicks, and it slightly weakens the counterpick overall strength. This helps guarantee that the better player wins rather than the player that won the first game and trades powerful counterpicks.


Tournament Organizers (Facebook event hosts)

Zaandaa (Adam)
Phone dead

Hungry Pigeon (Mike)
786-302-9510
 
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tiger10x

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Updated with important changes! New counterpick rule, schedule, Wii U tentative rules, PM 3.5 singles in place of teams, and more details.
 
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