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Dealing with Samus' Up-B OoS

JKJ

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I know this will most likely make me sound n00by, but I am in a bit of a pickle.

What is the best way to deal with Samus' Up-B OoS (or any other fast OoS option)?

I know that the old Aerial-Shine pressure does not work in today's metagame, and I am aware of shine-grabbing, but every time I go for a shinegrab after an aerial on shield I am interrupted by the Up-B between the shine and the grab.
I've heard that fading bairs on shield works, but it seems that after the first shine I am interrupted.
 

JKJ

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I know that I can SDI out of the Up-B, I do that when I get hit.
I'm talking about how to make having samus in shield favorable for me, and not having the situation reset by being hit by an Up-B.
 

-LzR-

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It's not a reset if you SDI it well. Falco falls fast, SDI out and you will reach the ground much faster and then it's free anything for you.
Though it might be harder for Falco to SDI out, but with Puff it's easy to just SDI and rest and not care so I don't see how Falco couldn't do it.
 

Strong Badam

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you could just dd around her shield
and just /grab/ it instead of hitting it first
 

ElloEddy

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BAIT IT!!!!! lol ....or go past her with aerials ...you cant shield pressure samus .up-b always wins lol ....learn to bait it .or go for tomahawks and mix it up so she cant use up-b outta shield so often
 

JKJ

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Ok, so no form of shield pressure works? Good to know, at least I know i wasn't f***ing up. Ill definitely avoid her shield now lol
 

stabbedbyanipple

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Well when her shield is on the lower side, you can definitely try and shield poke her.

You can also aerial her shield, and then light shield right after. If she up Bs right away then you're free to punish her, if she doesn't then the most she can do to your big azzz shield is grab, which you can look out for and basically avoid on reaction (or just dip immediately if you think she doesn't have a read on u)

Now that stuff is tried and true. Here is some stuff I FEEL in my heart of hearts should work, but even if it doesn't, there's a small margin of error for samus.

Double shine her shield if she isn't like frame perfect with her up B (i.e. it's easier for you to mash down b on her shield then it is for her to time an up B and not get poked out of her intial jump). I don't think westballz's variation works on this though.

Shinegrab probably works if you're fast enough with the grab. And if you still get up Bd out of it, you can get ready for the DI while you're grabbing.

If you try and grab her shield, hold UP (and maybe away too), because spot dodge dsmash will occasionally happen, and if you don't di that correctly there's a chance you're gonna die hellllaaa early lol

You don't have to directly pop onto Samus' shield very often, but it's best to at least do it occasionally to keep her cautious. These are some things to try.
 
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