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critique my snake please!

Renegade TX2000

Smash Ace
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just watched 30 seconds of each vid... You need better decision making on your moves, don't charge like your mk. CAMP, if it's marth/ike especially camp, when they make mistake then run in for punishing.
 

Infern Angelis

Smash Master
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Dont listen to Ren, he mains MK >:(

As for your snake, whats with trying to always put down a full mine? U got punished countless times because of it, its great that you put some down, but try to only put a fast one down unless your opponent can in no way reach you in order to punish you.
 

Black_Heretic

Smash Lord
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just watched vid 1, I'll go through a few things:

start of match: drop a grenade or a c4, never just run off and approach

0:13 - nair only autocancels if you double jump it, never try to drop through a platform and nair, bair would have worked here

0:22 - throw a grenade into aether, he goes boom

and overall, more nades and less approaching

0:25 - never use fair, ever, especially landing with it, should have reversed a nade to land on a platform and not into an upsmash

0:30 - missed a free grab

First kill, good dair =]

0:47 - lrn2nadestrip

0:56 - don't cypher near the ledge, ever, its asking for a cypher grab ****

1:07 - wtf was that? missed ledgehog? don't try to ledgehog aether unless you're certain you won't **** up, just throw a grenade at him

1:11 - save your up tilts man, its an amazing kill move

1:17 - don't camp with nikita, THROW SOME NADES

dropping nades is great, lrn2through them though

lrn2camp

1:29 - you can't beat Ike's uair, jump away or reverse a c4 or nade so you can land

1:42 - where's the dthrow? pummels are nice, but one was enough there, and a dtilt follow up? I forgot Snake had a dtilt, you coulda ftilted or jab ->ftilt and had a much better result

1:48 - why are you landing on him? KEEP YOUR DISTANCE!! You ate an Fsmash from Ike because you landed on him

rolls are not an effective way to move around and will get you smashed as a result

2:16 - camp attempt, but with the side B again, just cook some nades and toss them, they're much better

2:27 - full jab can be powershielded, as you saw, bait a spotdodge and ftilt

2:34 - you don't have to full charge your mine, it works just fine uncharged and you keep getting punished for trying to full charge it

2:45 - dthrow-> read his roll or getup attack-> utilt, you could have had a kill

Here's a few pieces of advice
-recover high, you don't
-Put c4 on platforms, it has a crazy downwards hitbox
-don't down tilt, nikita, or forward air
-CAMP CAMP CAMP
-shield more, roll less
-bair out of hitstun, not dair

/longest post I ever wrote
 

Bizkit047

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Just to nitpick a little for further advice:

"1:11 - save your up tilts man, its an amazing kill move"

It's true to try to keep it fresh, but utilting early on an opponents stock is perfectly fine, it should be refreshed by the time you go for the KO. No reason to use another attack that would miss if utilt can hit. Just something I see many Snakes not do. What not to do is to use utilt as a main punishing move, that's what ftilt is for.

"1:17 - don't camp with nikita, THROW SOME NADES"

I'd say camp with both when given the opportunity. If the opponent is being pressured with two nades around them, send a Nikita at them for more pressure, it can even break their shield if the two nades blew up on it already. I've even seen Ally chase the opponent that was high up in the air from knockback with a Nikita and have it land on them for a KO. What not to do is just throw a Nikita with no nades around and the opponent free to dash attack you in the face.
 

Black_Heretic

Smash Lord
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nitpick nitpick nitpick =]

he was uptilting at %s where it wouldn't refresh in time for a kill,
like at 90ish, at that point it just hinders kill potential

and I was referring to the specific situations where he threw out missiles without a single grenade on the field, hence the time being referenced

but thanks for clearing that up
 

patoons

Smash Journeyman
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Oct 23, 2008
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oh wow thanks for the advice everyone, esp black heretic. i will try and incorporate what you said into my gameplay, esp the utilt saving and dthrows.

i play with the same group of guys who main samus, link and lucas so rarely do i get the opportunity to safely camp, but i will cook more nades before i shoot my nikitas out.
 

Black_Heretic

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for future reference, call me Syx

even if you're not all out camping, your grenade game is VERY important for stage control and pressure game

and come hang out in the social, you'll learn a lot
 
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