critique my sheik

[standardtoaster]

Teczero said I should just make a new topic for this because this board is apparently relatively slow with activity. So here's the vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHlwf43gzQU

I use both falco and sheik in it and it's about an hour long.

 

[Teczer0]

From what I remember, you both have no concept of spacing. Alex needs to work on that especially being Marth and all.

You throw out too many moves without purpose, and dash attack too often.

Work on your spacing, dash attack less.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Whoa, TecoTaco is sober alive!

 

[Teczer0]

If you weren't so adorable Dave I'd infract you.

 

[kailo34ce]

on a related note are there any big "falco/shiek" players, cant think of any atm

 

[Teczer0]

Only one I can think of is Forward.

 

[Soloist]

You also have Kels...who of course plays Fox, but plays Falco/Sheik as well.

 

[Banks]

Most Falco mains choose a different colored Falco as their secondary over a Sheik, so as to secure matchup advantage. Sheik is also good for the Falco-main rest periods between carpal tunnel flareups.

 

[kailo34ce]

lol. . . ya **** falco

 

[standardtoaster]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QaBh_7LfoY

more matches. definitely did not play on key as well as before. I seem to play worse when recording. :[

 

[KirbyKaze]

Sheik's best backup characters (if you want backup characters at all) are Fox and Peach IMO. They're the best characters against ICs, who are her worst MU IMO. Fox is also conveniently good vs Puff, so if you don't wanna do it with Sheik then he gives you that option. Peach has some strong CPs vs spacies that are really convenient for Sheik too (hooray for FD).

 

[kailo34ce]

i would say marth is also a decent backup also for your second peach reason, soft counter spacies, (maybe have an easier time with icies?) plus you dont have to worry about the marth ditto cuz you have a shiek.

plus the whole grab/techchase/calculating playstyle compares to shiek (altho overall this possibly hinders him as a backup due to the fact that you cant pull a 180 on your opponent)

 

[KirbyKaze]

Yeah, Marth is fine. I just think Peach & Fox are better.

 

[kailo34ce]

yeah for sure. thats what i use

also do you have information on the falco matchup written anywhere ? i can never seem to locate it, almost like its been removed.

 

[standardtoaster]

..and somehow my topic is turned into a matchup discussion. huh.

 

[Teczer0]

..and somehow my topic is turned into a matchup discussion. huh.

Someones new to the sheik boards hmmmm toaster-tama?

 

[KirbyKaze]

My comment was made addressing why there aren't any Falco/Sheik players. She benefits more from a different secondary (provided you want a secondary; Sheik can solo a tournament without much hassle).

I might watch the second video but you're fighting Y.Link and for about 35 seconds you landed 7 grabs and did nothing with any of them. Dash grab is easier for CG btw.




edit: Also, we missed Rob$ (not to be confused with Bob$).

 

[standardtoaster]

I didn't know dash grab was easier for the CG. I'll try that out next time.

 

[kailo34ce]

edit: Also, we missed Rob$ (not to be confused with Bob$).

yeah so does everyone in texas x.x

caveman/rob$ were like the heroes of our state

edit: also i just wanted a link to falco matchup info cuz all i ever find is shiek vs shiek and shiek vs falcon

anyway to stay on topic, i think you should practice chaingrab vs roy,like a firend if you can, if i remember correctly you can chaingrab him like forever and its like oen of those chaingrabs that is always possible and also requires good timing, so it seems like a good way to practice.

 

[Teczer0]

Actually IMO I think the CG is something you should learn like right before a tourney

They're all fairly simple. Learning the core basics are more important IMO.

Dash grab for all your CGs toaster tan. Except for DIs that put them right next to you obv.

 

[kailo34ce]

I think one of the most important things to practice is getting on the edge as quickly as possible, whether its wavedashing or reverse needle etc.

i always feel like i do this a little too slow when the pressure is on

obviously shiek has a godly edge game at slightly lower than kill %s while edge guarding and missing a gimp could cost you the game.

also knowing the lengths of heavy chars tech rolls and stuff doesnt hurt.

dsmashing out of a run and wavedashing oos

and never forget how much **** the fair is

 

[standardtoaster]

Yeah, I just need to work on dashing out of the dthrow a lot faster for most of the cgs.

 

[KirbyKaze]

I think you should use more sh fair and bair. It felt like the primary option you attacked with from SH was aerial needles. While aerial needles are good, they're not really as flexible a tool as her fair and bair. I also detected some awkward jumping behaviours and I'm not sure whether you're just poor at short hopping or if you actually want to full jump that much. Generally, being in the air for that long is bad (especially vs Y.Link).

 

[standardtoaster]

I generally sh a lot better but a lot of those times were probably mistakes. I need to work on playing better when I know I'm recording. >.>

 

[standardtoaster]

I entered a tourney this weekend using Cactuar's ruleset. That thing is crazy as hell. Hopefully people can still critique even with the odd stages, lol.

Singles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2Oji4A14WU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXkfCPEe4no
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCgAB2ll62s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUf4B8ubQSA

Doubles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFs5uDxo3Lc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLA5W7Eoneg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAKQA0FDa8w

 

[kailo34ce]

I entered a tourney this weekend using Cactuar's ruleset. That thing is crazy as hell. Hopefully people can still critique even with the odd stages, lol.

how did you feel about the ruleset?

 

[standardtoaster]

I posted about it in Cactuar's thread. http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14065246&postcount=1104


I have no idea what happened with the recording device in my match vs lighstoutace. 1:30-2:00 is really fast and skips a lot. lol

 

[kailo34ce]

i hate a bunch of random stages in doubles, dub fox is too good