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Critique my Luigi please

Delvro

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You need to work on your spacing game... it comes with practice but you gotta start now

That Lucario player was really aggressive and predictable... I wanted to scream HE'S GONNA FAIR!! throughout the match... he followed up with a dair EVEN WHEN HE MISSED his fair. As a Luigi player, you gotta learn to capitalize on their mistakes and habits.

Against Lucario, Bairs are pretty good. When you were both in the air you were usually facing towards him... that's bad.

Other than that, be careful not to jump into the ****. One of the most important things to learn is when NOT to attack.
 

LuigiKing

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Well from what I saw (my internet stopped loading halfway through, and I'm lazy) you pretty much need to work on making your Luigi a lot smoother. Keep moving, don't have lots of random ground time where you do nothing, its important to keep the flow with Luigi to stay unpredictable. I also noticed you were using Fair and Bair in a lot of situations where Dair would pretty much be the much better option. When your opponent isn't straight in front or right behind you, Dair is a really good choice.

Hope that helped at all.
 

kigbariom

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I feel like the matches didn't flow becuse of the wrong moves. The moves you used got the job done, but there are sequences that will get it done faster and easier. Like when you would fair as opposed to dair. I didn't see a lot of u-air either.

There were points like at the beginning where you were just standing there and spotdodging. But you need to know when it's time to pull out and run for the hills. Luigi can be picked off because other character's have better range than him.

Nice simple but affective approaches and fireball uses. I say always stick to the basics when it's a fireball game.
Try not to go for AAA but an A>UpB or something that can do some damage, like A>smash. Missing out on any combo of KO opportunity really hurts Luigi because that is his forte.
Try to powershield to avoid sliding, because you had great chances for an OOS u-smash and you slid too far away.

A lot of time was spent being kind of jumpy, if you do this, mix in fireballs and mindgames. Like fake out a bair/ fair approach. Or fireball above them to supress their tactics. If your not fighting you might as well keep them thinking.
On the edge you need to get furious with aerials, bair in particular.
Rolling got you hurt more than it helped you so....

I need to see more f-smashes.

I think you are, pretty good, but you need to be a little smarter. Patience will help in these scenarios. Practice this advice one at a time. Because you will think to hard trying to work with all of our advice at the same time.
Just get used to powershielding for as many matches as it takes, then move to f-smashes, then etc. etc.
You will soon be able to implement all of it naturally.

Stick with Luigi...

@LK, what is with your internet? Could it be slower than it is here?
 

Atash

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Wow - your Luigi is pretty good. I'm a mediocre player, but I think I can give some advice anyway...

@ 0:35: Luigi's B-air outranges Lucario's F-air, however I'm unsure
@ 1:10+: You dodged every single aura sphere after getting hit by that one. Awesome job, sir.
@ 1:29: O_O ... That was... like... ****nnnnnnnn... Awesome, sir, awesome...
@ 2:10: Yeah - going along with what Kigbariom said, you totally should be F-smashing more. :-P
@ 2:25: It looked like you had an unused tornado recovery left-over which you didn't use...
@ 2:55: Man, I make that mistake so often... the missed FJP. Good luck fixing that - although, nice job keeping the attempt where you could use the edge to cancel.
@ 3:08: THAT! DO THAT MORE OFTEN!
@ 3:30: Kig's advice plays biggest here - he was waiting for your recovery. You still had a tornado left-over to use if you undershot the sweetspot too.

In general:
Well, Lucario has a bunch-load of range, so I may be asking too much by saying this for this particular match, but try to space your B-airs a little better. I don't think I saw any connected B-airs except for one time at 1:20, where you managed to hit Lucario with Luigi's stomach area. Luigi's B-air is amazing - use it more (especially via reverse aerial rush). :-D

Work on your recovery a bit, you totally could have two stocked the Lucario player if you'd had some more trust in your tornado.

Keep those fireballs - they're better than mine. >_< Either that, or make them even better.

You have the same problem I have with slow attacks... You dodge/tap shield, become vulnerable a split second later, and get ***** by the hitbox as it comes out within the next ten frames (personally, I spot dodge and get ***** by the hitbox a few frames later, unless it's interrupted via a quick jab :-D ). Expecting quick attacks is a tough habit to break, so get started breaking it (I still haven't broken it <_< ).

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All in all, though, a fine and laudable Luigi. :-D
 

crazn137

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Thank you all very much for your advice. I'll make sure to incorporate all of this as much as I can into my gameplay =)
 

kigbariom

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Anytime crazn.
But don't think too hard. I'm sure you know what I mean, but when I first joined smashboards I was reading up on everything and tried to do all it at once. That kept me at the same skill. Take it slow.
 

Delvro

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Yeah... it's best to pick one thing... like "I need to reverse jump so that I Bair instead of Fair" and then just think about that for a good while... then move on to something else
 

kigbariom

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I have that down now, the reverse jump for bair. It's great.
One thing I've noticed I've been doing as when moving and trying to fireball, I green missile. It's really dangerous. I think I'm just rushing into things.
 

Delvro

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I used to have that problem too, but mostly with midair turn-around fireballs. But then I found out you can tap the direction BEFORE you fireball, let it go back to neutral, then press B
 
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