Counter Spamming

[Garlic Wonder]

I play a Little Mac online in for glory and he just sits at the edge of the battlefield and spams counter whenever I attack. This counter attack needs to get removed.

Anyway, what do I do against counter spamming Little Macs?

 

[Someguyyoulikelydontknow]

Try fake outs. If they're a bad player, they'll counter right away. You can just wait a second after "charging" them and punish accordingly. One fun tactic I like to use is to run towards a counter spammer full speed, then dodge roll once I get to them so that I slip behind them and punish from behind. They usually don't see it coming. Another option is to use projectiles. If you're close enough, throw something at them to trigger a counter, then punish with a dash attack. And did you say they're playing Little Mac? On the edge of the stage? Grab them and throw them! Little Mac are terrible in the air! If you can grab and throw them (grabs counter a counter.), punish them with an aerial and watch then spiral down to the abyss below!

 

[Garlic Wonder]

What do you do when you are using Wario?

 

[Someguyyoulikelydontknow]

I don't play Wario. Sorry. :/ Like I said, you could try a dodge roll towards them. If they're reactive, anything that stalls for a moment before an attack should give you the opportunity to punish while they flounder helplessly in their failed counter.

 

[Garlic Wonder]

That's OK, I don't use Pac-Man. If you like, I have made a Wario guide in SSB4 Characters Discussion under Wario.
You should check it out.

 

[Someguyyoulikelydontknow]

My advice wasn't exclusive to just Pac-Man. I generally alternate between Little Mac, Pac-Man, Villager, and DHD for my mains. As far as I'm concerned, that advice should work for most characters. In fact, Pac-Mans grab is rather slow, so it may not be ideal for grabbing a counter spammer.

 

[Garlic Wonder]

Could you also do Wario's Bite when you fake the Mac out on his Counter Spam?

 

[Someguyyoulikelydontknow]

I haven't tried it, but given how the move has a bit of starting leg, it might work. If you're unsure, just wait for the counters initial attack time to disappear, then punish accordingly.

 

[Garlic Wonder]

I think it's best to do Wario's Back Throw, the Wild Swing Ding from Wario World, and then when Mac is trying to recover, just use Wario's Nairs a bit and then Mac will fall to his doom.

 

[Someguyyoulikelydontknow]

Sounds like a plan. Msg me and tell me how it goes. Like I said, a good Little Mac player should never be on the edge of a stage.

 

[Garlic Wonder]

What is MSG?

 

[Lazyboy0337]

One idea could be to get to the other side, then spawn a bike and dismount. Send it rolling after him as a projectile.

 

[Garlic Wonder]

I thought this thread was closed by now......

 

[elmuchogrumpy]

Use grabs. Counter is easily punishable with a grab.