Confirmed (sorta) Characters

[leprechaunlink727]

There have been only a few characters truly confirmed. Here are some that have only been sorta confirmed.

1. Suited Samus- Confirmed already, but not technically. Whatever. She's in this.

2. Yoshi- Has a theme song and a stage already.

3. Ridley- Has a theme song, is a villain, and is highly requested.

4. Ganondorf-This one is less "official" than the others.

Dai-Rantô Smash Brothers X (2007) (VG) (filming) (voice) (attached) .... Ganondorf
... aka Super Smash Bros. Brawl (International: English title)

This is listed as Takashi Nagasako's latest project on IMBD, he voiced Ganondorf in all the games except for TP, including Melee. Sakurai either doesn't know or doesn't care about this slipped info. If Ganondorf wasn't a character, why would he need a voice actor?

Thoughts? Arguments?

 

[Gypsy Lee]

Nice find on the Ganondorf thing. Though I could care less about him, (LoZ games aren't my cup of tea). I'm anxious to hear more about Ridley. I was stoked this morning when I saw the Ridley Boss Battle Theme update.

Oh, and no, I have no arguments.

 

[Darkfur]

IMDB is notorious for posting false info when it comes to videogames. IIRC.

 

[the grim lizard]

Nice find on the Ganondorf thing. Though I could care less about him, (yeah I hate LoZ games with a passion). I'm anxious to hear more about Ridley. I was stoked this morning when I saw the Ridley Boss Battle Theme update.

Oh, and no, I have no arguments.

How can you hate Zelda games with a passion?? Ocarina of Time is renowned as one of (if not the) greatest games of all time...Twilight Princess is amazing as well. It's probably over-exaggerated to say that, and you should give the series a chance...

 

[Green Shell]

How in the WORLD do you hate LoZ games with a passion?? That's ridiculous. Ocarina of Time is renouned as one of (if not the) greatest games of all time...Twilight Princess is amazing as well. That's just dumb dumb dumb...(and no it's not just "my opinion"...there are certain things like that that are just fact and are generally accepted...)

Do you seriously consider that a fact?
Opinions, are opinions. No matter how much you agree to it yourself.
Now, could care less about Ganandorf... Yoshi is who I want to be in the most
EDIT: Ridley would make a nice edition.

 

[the grim lizard]

Do you seriously consider that a fact?
Opinions, are opinions. No matter how much you agree to it yourself.
Now, could care less about Ganandorf... Yoshi is who I want to be in the most
EDIT: Ridley would make a nice edition.

You're right, opinions are opinions, but...that is not an opinion. That is a fact: OoT is in the top 5 games of all time. Fact.

If you want to hate it, fine...but you're in the minority.

(And BTW...A lot of people consider A Link to the Past in the top 5's, too)

 

[Gypsy Lee]

I never played OoT, but I did play Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess (Wii version). And, well, I have to say that they blew pretty hard. I don't remember MM to much because I haven't played that for a long time. TP on the other hand, I do. I bought it because everyone said it was really, really good, an instant classic, and a system seller. I thought I'd give the series another chance... Well, I noticed that the whole game went by this one formula:

Find a temple
Dungeon crawl for about five hours
Find a useful item
Said item helps you access the boss's room
Fight a huge, easy boss
Kill said boss by stabbing him in the eye several times
Find a really, really useful item
Go back to Hyrule to find out where the other really useful item is
Find a temple

Rinse. Wash. Repeat.

I'm sorry, but about the time I finally got to the Twilight Realm and discovered it was another temple, I quit the game. Later, I sold it on ebay for about thirty bucks. I'll never play another Zelda game again. I'll stick with Metroid. Sorry for upsetting you LoZ fanboys.

(I apologize for going off topic everyone)

 

[Conker1]

How in the WORLD do you hate LoZ games with a passion?? That's ridiculous. Ocarina of Time is renouned as one of (if not the) greatest games of all time...Twilight Princess is amazing as well. That's just dumb dumb dumb...(and no it's not just "my opinion"...there are certain things like that that are just fact and are generally accepted...)

That's the exact reason I hate LoZ the series. I played a few of em, but they began to bore me halfway through. Then other people are say "WHAT? LoZ is the best games ever!" and it just pisses me off, because while they are good games they are definately NOT the best games ever.

 

[Gypsy Lee]

Thank you Conker1.

 

[dynamic_entry]

I never played OoT, but I did play Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess (Wii version). And, well, I have to say that they blew pretty hard. I don't remember MM to much because I haven't played that for a long time. TP on the other hand, I do. I bought it because everyone said it was really, really good, an instant classic, and a system seller. I thought I'd give the series another chance... Well, I noticed that the whole game went by this one formula:

Find a temple
Dungeon crawl for about five hours
Find a useful item
Said item helps you access the boss's room
Fight a huge, easy boss
Kill said boss by stabbing him in the eye several times
Find a really, really useful item
Go back to Hyrule to find out where the other really useful item is
Find a temple

Rinse. Wash. Repeat.

I'm sorry, but about the time I finally got to the Twilight Realm and discovered it was another temple, I quit the game. Later, I sold it on ebay for about thirty bucks. I'll never play another Zelda game again. I'll stick with Metroid. Sorry for upsetting you LoZ fanboys.

(I apologize for going off topic everyone)

oh yeah, the game has a formula, it must be the terrible.

 

[FSLMJM]

I'm not a huge fan of LoZ games either. It's too hard for me and I quit Twilight Princess on the first day.

 

[Toasty!]

3. Ridley- Has a theme song, is a villain, and is highly requested.

If you believe Ridley is 100% confirmed because he has a song, you have a small member.

 

[Gypsy Lee]

oh yeah, the game has a formula, it must be the terrible.

It wasn't the fact that it had a formula, it was that the formula was boring as all he**.

 

[dynamic_entry]

It wasn't the fact that it had a formula, it was that the formula was boring as all he**.

your opinion.

i disagree.

more people worldwide agree with me.

 

[bloodvayne]

Well, I noticed that the whole game went by this one formula:

Rinse. Wash. Repeat.

I'll stick with Metroid.

Lol, Metroid is the exact same way, just change around locales a bit, it's still dungeon crawl to useful item and back again.
They're both really good games, but I doubt the reason you gave is why you hated it.
Try playing a two dimensional one, link to the past or links awakening, if you still don't like them, then mehh.

RE4 is still the greatest game ever btw.

*on-topic
if the reasons given are enough to (sorta) confirm characters, then the

list should also be considered, all the games like killer 7 or ape escape are mentioned, so whu are no characters from them on this list?

Reason: this list is technically bogus (even if it's pretty given that Ridleys gonna be in )

 

[the grim lizard]

That's the exact reason I hate LoZ the series. I played a few of em, but they began to bore me halfway through. Then other people are say "WHAT? LoZ is the best games ever!" and it just pisses me off, because while they are good games they are definately NOT the best games ever.

You hate the game because everyone loves it? That makes sense. You'd probably better quit playing Smash, too...cuz everyone around here loves it, too.

And they are the best games. You can check any video game rankings list there has ever been and Ocarina and Link to the Past will almost always appear in the top 10. Your opinions aren't going to change that.

I never played OoT...

I find that's usually the case. People hate Zelda who've never really played any of the games (esp. OoT); people hate Falco who've never played SF64; people hate Ridley who've never played Prime/Super Metroid/others; etc. etc.


And to both of you: the games aren't so set that you have to do this this this this and this. It's called exploring. There is a whole world to explore and mess around and just do lots of things. If you do exactly what you're told and don't look around, it's still pretty fun, but not the full experience.

I have a whole list of games that shouldn't have characters in Smash:

>In Mario, you have to complete the worlds, stomp on Goombas, and go from castle to castle trying to find the Princess. How boring. Oh, and you always fight Bowser...how unoriginal!

>Metroid...oh! She always loses her suit pieces and has to battle bosses to get them back. You have to go around collecting item tanks too. Lame!

>In Pikmin you have to go around collecting parts, and all you ever do is just pluck Pikmin and have them collect parts. yawn yawn yawn

>In F-Zero, it is complete monontony! You just drive cars. That's it. GEEZ

>Pokemon? Are you kidding? You just capture lame little creatures, and it's just the same fights over and over. You have to just go around collecting these little guys in every game. Why don't they mix it up at all??

Care for me to go on, or has the point set it? The point of the franchise is the style of the game. There is similarity because that's what makes it what it is. But that isn't a bad thing.

 

[DarkKnight077]

How in the WORLD do you hate LoZ games with a passion?? That's ridiculous. Ocarina of Time is renouned as one of (if not the) greatest games of all time...Twilight Princess is amazing as well. That's just dumb dumb dumb...(and no it's not just "my opinion"...there are certain things like that that are just fact and are generally accepted...)

You are not a Zelda fan at all. "ZOMG OoT is the best!!1 AHHH!!1" That is just fanwackery talking, OoT is sup-bar when compared to Wind Waker or even TP. I don't accept OoT as the greatest game of all time just because some web site says so. Or because it was the first 3-D Zelda ever.

Next time play all the Zelda games and then come back. I don't like fanwacks and you really need to get your head examined. Link to the Past>>>Ocarina in every level

On Topic: Ridley has a song? Link please?

 

[Green Shell]

You're right, opinions are opinions, but...that is not an opinion. That is a fact: OoT is in the top 5 games of all time. Fact.

If you want to hate it, fine...but you're in the minority and your ignorance is showing...

(And BTW...A lot of people consider A Link to the Past in the top 5's, too)

No doubt that OoT is one of the most enjoyable games to play, but it's not a fact that's it's the best. Websites, polls, magazines... they don't have votes from EVERYONE

On Topic: Ridley has a song? Link please?

Check out smashbros.com, they have a new update

 

[the grim lizard]

You are not a Zelda fan at all. "ZOMG OoT is the best!!1 AHHH!!1" That is just fanwackery talking, OoT is sup-bar when compared to Wind Waker or even TP. I don't accept OoT as the greatest game of all time just because some web site says so. Or because it was the first 3-D Zelda ever.

Next time play all the Zelda games and then come back. I don't like fanwacks and you really need to get your head examined. Link to the Past>>>Ocarina in every level

I have played them all, thank you very much (minus OoA and OoS). But I still stand by that. I never said anything about the others not being great as well. OoT couldn't possibly be sub-par compared to LATER games, but it's still better than those two for reasons I won't go into here.

also--you've made some pretty big assumptions about me without knowing me at all...that's pretty ignorant of you

No doubt that OoT is one of the most enjoyable games to play, but it's not a fact that's it's the best. Websites, polls, magazines... they don't have votes from EVERYONE

That's all I was saying was that it's in the top 5 almost everywhere. And they may not have EVERYONE's opinion, but polls never do. But, in any case, that doesn't matter because those are games publications where the people writing them are people who spend their whole lives playing/studying/etc. video games.

EDIT: Typical Top 5 (not my opinion, but generally accepted):

Mario 64, Tetris, Ocarina of Time, Street Fighter 2, Link to the Past

and after: Goldeneye, Super Mario Bros. Super Metroid, etc...

 

[dynamic_entry]

You are not a Zelda fan at all. "ZOMG OoT is the best!!1 AHHH!!1" That is just fanwackery talking, OoT is sup-bar when compared to Wind Waker or even TP. I don't accept OoT as the greatest game of all time just because some web site says so. Or because it was the first 3-D Zelda ever.

Next time play all the Zelda games and then come back. I don't like fanwacks and you really need to get your head examined. Link to the Past>>>Ocarina in every level

On Topic: Ridley has a song? Link please?

No.

Ocarina practically wrote the ground rules for WW. you cant compare the 2. without OoT, WW wouldnt exist. People love OoT because its a classic. and yes, it was the first zelda to come into the 3D age. if that makes people love it more, who cares?

i think both WW and TP are better GAMES than OoT, but i prefer to pay OoT.

and yes, A Link to the Past is a real classic too.

go here to listen to the song:

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html

 

[DarkKnight077]

Blah blah...You are spewing again. OoT is overrated now, I like the game yes. But it's not the greatest of all time Zelda games just because it has a lame story and a sort of a good gameplay. Seriously they make the Top 10 out of fanbase and sales. Not of production value, if they did then whole entire list would change. OoT is the same level as FF VII now. It's not the greatest and people just need to shut up about it.

On Topic: Oh thanks. When they do make updates anyways?

 

[Gypsy Lee]

Wow, this has gotten WAY off topic. I'm really sorry for starting this. The grim lizard, I did try to explore and take it all in. Unfortunately, the game really wasn't that pretty (but I understand because it was a GameCube port). And there really wasn't a reason for exploring, except for finding rupees. But, there was no point in aquiring rupees either, because there was nothing to buy with them.

I guess you're right though, I really can't say I hate the game, it's just okay. However, I hate the fact that everyone loves a game that IMO is highly overrated... I'll take your advice and try a 2D Zelda. Which one do you recommend? Preferably one that is on VC.

 

[the grim lizard]

On Topic: Ridley has a song? Link please?

On Topic: Oh thanks. When they do make updates anyways?

(in your tone): WHAT?? You don't know about the updates?? And you call yourself a fan?! Psshhh. Don't give me be flack about my Zelda knowledge...you don't even know about Smash updates!

Sorry, it had to be said.

As I said, I'm not going to go into defending Ocarina here, but I could. It goes far beyond gameplay, but anyway...get over yourself...

 

[bloodvayne]

is the SNES one on VC?
if not, don't try the NES versions, those are only for the truest of zelda fans or the diehard classic gaming fans.

oh, and more offtopicness, Majoras Mask was so much better than Ocarina of Time

EDIT: Grim Lizard, you're a douchebag

 

[DarkKnight077]

That remix version of that Ridley battle is cool. But they had to make it so like metal almost? Seriously it doesn't need to be blown out..

@Grim: I have other things to do then dig for updates. For instance..I have a X-box 360. I had to play the Halo 2 beta when it was available. Also you mocking me kind of sucks yo.

 

[dynamic_entry]

Blah blah...You are spewing again. OoT is overrated now, I like the game yes. But it's not the greatest of all time Zelda games just because it has a lame story and a sort of a good gameplay. Seriously they make the Top 10 out of fanbase and sales. Not of production value, if they did then whole entire list would change. OoT is the same level as FF VII now. It's not the greatest and people just need to shut up about it.

On Topic: Oh thanks. When they do make updates anyways?

denying the greatness of games like FF7 and OoT tells me bad things about you. you've basically just become a bit of a hypocrite in my eyes. first you say you cant claim any game is greater, then you say which games are NOT greater than others....

also, "a link to the past >>>>>> than OoT on every level"? thats just ******** and clearly you didnt think before making that claim. even an idiot would know that while it may be considered to have a better story or its classic style gameplay.....or whatever you think is better about it, the same idiot could easily tell that OoT blows it out of the water graphically.

you <<<<<< an idiot

updates in 4 to 7 hours

 

[Gypsy Lee]

@ bloodvayne: Yes, there is one on the SNES. I'll try it out. Thanks.

@ darkknight: They made the Super Metroid theme that way, too. On Brinstar in SSBM, sounds weird doesn't it?

@ dynamic entry: I'm just wondering here, but do any of the Zelda games have an actual storyline? They all seem the same too me, just different bosses and stuff. And, is there any like sorta "links" in between each game as far as plot goes? Yes, I know, same with Metroid. But, like I said I was just wondering.

 

[whiterob]

Oh i get it. The title and first post of this thread were just a ruse and everyone is really here to discuss whether or not Loz is stupid or not. If you don't like zelda, zelda fans don't give two craps as to why you don't like it so don't bother to try and change their minds. If you like zelda, zelda haters don't give two craps about why you like it so don't bother trying to change their minds.

On topic:
You shouldn't assume that a character is in just based on a song or stage alone. However, yoshi is a lock and at this point, ridley should have a high enough demand to merit him/it being in the game.

 

[mukoe890]

they have to bring ganon back...im sure they wil though, hes not my main but hes fun to mess around with. i wonder if theyll let him use his sword in this one. and if they do that maybe they'll let captain falcon use the gun he has at the side of his hip

 

[the grim lizard]

is the SNES one on VC?
if not, don't try the NES versions, those are only for the truest of zelda fans or the diehard classic gaming fans.

oh, and more offtopicness, Majoras Mask was so much better than Ocarina of Time

EDIT: Grim Lizard, you're a douchebag

I'm glad you could bring some intelligence to the conversation. *rolls eyes*...

 

[DarkKnight077]

denying the greatness of games like FF7 and OoT tells me bad things about you. you've basically just become a bit of a hypocrite in my eyes. first you say you cant claim any game is greater, then you say which games are NOT greater than others....

also, "a link to the past >>>>>> than OoT on every level"? thats just ******** and clearly you didnt think before making that claim. even an idiot would know that while it may be considered to have a better story or its classic style gameplay.....or whatever you think is better about it, the same idiot could easily tell that OoT blows it out of the water graphically.

you <<<<<< an idiot

updates in 4 to 7 hours

I perfer my games in 16-bit kiddo. I don't care for graphics yo, I care about gameplay. That's why I love Link to the Past, it's classic ol' school Zelda. How is FF VII and OoT great? FF VI is better than FF VII. Majora's Mask is better than OoT. I said FF VII and OoT are in the same level of overrateness.

I did think, it's called I like games that are ol school. I'm not so sure that I am the idiot here. Since you are flaming me about the games I played.

 

[Gypsy Lee]

they have to bring ganon back...im sure they wil though, hes not my main but hes fun to mess around with. i wonder if theyll let him use his sword in this one. and if they do that maybe they'll let captain falcon use the gun he has at the side of his hip

Captain Falcon is like Chuck Norris in Walker Texas Ranger- he's too badass for guns!

 

[dynamic_entry]

@ bloodvayne: Yes, there is one on the SNES. I'll try it out. Thanks.

@ darkknight: They made the Super Metroid theme that way, too. On Brinstar in SSBM, sounds weird doesn't it?

@ dynamic entry: I'm just wondering here, but do any of the Zelda games have an actual storyline? They all seem the same too me, just different bosses and stuff. And, is there any like sorta "links" in between each game as far as plot goes? Yes, I know, same with Metroid. But, like I said I was just wondering.

*sighs*

yes there is a story in each game. yes there are links between these stories. mainly ganondorf/ganon (he is the same character throughout the series as he becomes immortal when he obtains one third of the triforce in OoT). many of the larger zelda games revolve around ganondorf's various attempts to obtain the other two pieces of the tri-force or generally just do something bad.

 

[bloodvayne]

I'm glad you could bring some intelligence to the conversation. *rolls eyes*...

want me to use your intelligence level?

"I bet if we took a statistic poll only using the people in this thread, the majority of them would say you're a douchebag. That may not make it true that you are a douche, but it doesn't matter because the majority would be calling you a douchebag anyways!

I mean sorry, but it had to be said.

I've see nevery douchebag in the world! (except for maybe some in China), so that totally gives me the right to say who is and is not a douchebag. You don't have the right however, because you are not knowledgable enough to point out who is and isn't a douchebag.

Oh, and you're a 12 year old!!! hahahahaha"

And you're saying I'm detracting from the intelligence? You've pretty much wiped all of that from this thread.

 

[Gypsy Lee]

*sighs*

yes there is a story in each game. yes there are links between these stories. mainly ganondorf/ganon (he is the same character throughout the series as he becomes immortal when he obtains one third of the triforce in OoT). many of the larger zelda games revolve around ganondorf's various attempts to obtain the other two pieces of the tri-force or generally just do something bad.

Okay, thanx. I was a bit confused because it always seemed like Link and everyone else had no idea what was going on, even though it's basically the same guy trying to the same evil stuff.

 

[Green Shell]

DarkKnight, if you haven't seen the updates, you should definately browse through the site to see them all, they're ALL worth it, and enjoyable.

<3 threads that go crazy.

 

[dynamic_entry]

I perfer my games in 16-bit kiddo. I don't care for graphics yo, I care about gameplay. That's why I love Link to the Past, it's classic ol' school Zelda. How is FF VII and OoT great? FF VI is better than FF VII. Majora's Mask is better than OoT. I said FF VII and OoT are in the same level of overrateness.

I did think, it's called I like games that are ol school. I'm not so sure that I am the idiot here. Since you are flaming me about the games I played.

thats all well and good caring about gameplay. i wont deny that old school is fun (personally, i love a bit of snes action every now and then) and that it could easily be considered better than OoT in this respect by many fans of oldschool such as yourself. your claim however, was that ALttP was far greater than OoT in EVERY aspect. gameplay-fine, story-fine, graphically-no. you cant make a general claim like that about a game thats clearly better technically speaking.

im not flaming you about the games you played. personally, i dont particularly care what your opinions are. ff6 better than ff7, sure. no dramas. aLttP and WW and TP all better than OoT, fine. you can make these claims, but its the way you're making them that is stupid.

and i didnt call you an idiot. i called you less than an idiot.

also, im not going into why ff7 and OoT are great. that is a long post and i cant be bothered, especially because MOST of us know they are great.

edit: @ gypsy

yea link and zelda usually are different people from game to game. there are some exceptions, but generally every time ganondorf makes a power play theres a new link and zelda on the scene.

 

[Gypsy Lee]

I was looking up stuff on LoZ when I came across this:

http://www.unicyclopedia.org/ wiki/shiek

Could someone clarify whether Shiek is male or female? thnx in advance

 

[MetalMetaKnight]

Ive heard that Diddy and Dixie Kong will be replacing the Ice Climbers. I also heard that Meowth is the new pokemon that will be in this game, but its not for sure

 

[dynamic_entry]

I was looking up stuff on LoZ when I came across this:

http://www.unicyclopedia.org/ wiki/shiek

Could someone clarify whether Shiek is male or female? thnx in advance

sheik is PRINCESS zelda in disguise.