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Combo Video Blue Gloves Olimar Dragon (Zori's Thread)

Zori

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Blue Gloves Olimar Dragon!!!!!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_rZV07kbXM


Enjoy.

AWWWWW YEAH! ZORIS THREAD IS BACK.

Olimar chat Discussion!.


First and foremost

http://xat.com/chat/room/42098695/ sign up if you have not yet.

Ill make this short, we need to discuss for the olimar guide seen here:

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=201719

but a lot of people are not on here, so I came up with the idea that we meet 1-2 times a week for 30mins- an hour




Friday
7pm Cst
8pm Est
5Pst

November 28

Sunday
7pm Cst
8pm Est
5Pst

November 30



Combo vid preview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVobx_ayN-I

Update!!!!!


Zori vs Xyro


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC-k3hIg9P0

Zori vs takeyourlife



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlWuTq0XgiU




Videos from Hobo12


Zori vs KRD


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qOL4w3_4Dk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqNJ8OGjRa8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5edJuqFqF44

Zori vs JS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wNKeQIN0HA


Zori vs Santi!!!!!!


1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laobiJsw2uk

2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzTMWLsMCIk&feature=related

3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmJLaiC5KTE


We did a whole set they are just not uploaded yet.:chuckle:


Also I can't leave you empty handed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9xwvowh1uQ Enjoy ^^
 

Kabuto Mushi

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Well, you rock, that's for sure. I once fought a Lucas player similar to the Ness you fought there. I was totaly owned by him, lol. I think Lucas is a little harder for Oli anyway, as pikmin don't gimp his PK Thunder at all...

I need to try to score some fair off the ledge more like you do... I usually try the dair and end up missing. Would you say the Dthrow>Upsmash "combo" is easier or harder to pull off than the DThrow>SH>Fair one? I can never seem to pull of the latter against non-CPU opponents. =\

Anyway, nice team work in those 2v2 vids. :)
 

Zori

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Well, you rock, that's for sure. I once fought a Lucas player similar to the Ness you fought there. I was totaly owned by him, lol. I think Lucas is a little harder for Oli anyway, as pikmin don't gimp his PK Thunder at all...

I need to try to score some fair off the ledge more like you do... I usually try the dair and end up missing. Would you say the Dthrow>Upsmash "combo" is easier or harder to pull off than the DThrow>SH>Fair one? I can never seem to pull of the latter against non-CPU opponents. =\

Anyway, nice team work in those 2v2 vids. :)

Thanks for the kind words i would say the down throw > upsmash vs the down throw to sh fair are both 'easy' to do Really good players dont fall for the d throw to u smash after the first time it happens to them but fsmash will work almost all the time. Also by latter attack do you mean the one i used on simna when he was trying to recover? One way to score an easy hit with pikmin chain is to dash attack and it plops them right up for the pikmin chain.
 

Kabuto Mushi

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Thanks for the kind words i would say the down throw > upsmash vs the down throw to sh fair are both 'easy' to do Really good players dont fall for the d throw to u smash after the first time it happens to them but fsmash will work almost all the time. Also by latter attack do you mean the one i used on simna when he was trying to recover? One way to score an easy hit with pikmin chain is to dash attack and it plops them right up for the pikmin chain.

Ah, OK, I'll try that stuff out.

P.S. Bowser V. DK, lol? :laugh:
 

DanGR

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look at the first 2v2 video. look at snake at 2:11. LOL
 

scalpel

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Wow, those 2 vs 2 battles were very good. I noticed a bit of friendly fire throughout the battles from the Olimar team, but in spite of that, the teamwork was excellent.
 

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I watched the first Simna one, and I have to say, be more patient with the chain. You could have waited for him to get out of invincibility frames then Uaired or Faired him then chained.
 

Jarri

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Is that the best Ness? Hard to believe...

Good games, I would add a bit more speed if I were you.
 

shrinkray21

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Sorry to say - but that ness is good - but definitely not great imo...however lets look at what you did well first.

Good Things

You had solid control of the ground game on the smash side of game play - good hyphen, relatively good edgeguard throughout, I think that your up b usage got a tad predictable - that's a great move but only when they are unprepared. I though your grab game was well done - I would like to see more pivot grabs but its all gameplay choice.

Things to Improve

First off - where is the pikmin tossing?? I thought that you spent a good amount of time standing when you could toss and then charge, look for different approaches, at the very least it is going to occupy their time. Secondly - The games that you did well were when you did more aerials. A couple games I was waiting for a fair, bair, uair - but it was dsmash, upsmash, from personal experience, this is a hard habit to break - but very much worth it in the end.

I also thought that your tilt game was very lacking - dtilt is an amazing combo starter - ftilt/jabs are both good for close combat when you have a solid down dodging opponent. I also would like to see you work more on the nair - I thought the usage was lacking, Its very effective for attacking from straight above or below and also edge guarding.

Finally - I wish that you would have been more patient on the edge - if you are close enough for a fair or uair - do that, wait, then do your up b. Also, sometimes, its best to simply not go for the edge for safety's sake.

Overall - was a very solid olly - The Things to Improve is Longer than Good Things simply b/c you shouldn't be on the forums to have your ego boosted ;)...I think with a bit of practice, you can smooth the edges of your olly and be hard to beat!
 

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A couple Latch cancels u may have missed would be peach's ->B was mentioned in my thread, and one i just thought of that would be applicable to gimping Lucas' Pk fire+psi magnet recovery, by latching one to him then when he ->b's the pikmin would take it, but my question is would it cancel him wavebounce momentum? If someone could test that, it would be killer.
 

Zori

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A couple Latch cancels u may have missed would be peach's ->B was mentioned in my thread, and one i just thought of that would be applicable to gimping Lucas' Pk fire+psi magnet recovery, by latching one to him then when he ->b's the pikmin would take it, but my question is would it cancel him wavebounce momentum? If someone could test that, it would be killer.

I have tried to gimp lucas but its not the same Ness's pk thunder is one big hit but lucas's is multiple hits so your pikmin will fly right off.
 

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Yeah but my question isnt involving his up b, if it cancels out his Pk fire then u can gimp his pkfire recovery method.

So basically does it gimp Pk Fire?
 

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I think the only best thing that Ness had going for him was his edgeguarding. He pushed you outside with fair and grabbed the edge before you could. You should be more aggressive like that - like Shrink wrote, go for the pikmin toss. It'll screw his thunder, like I'm sure you know. But if his thunder does get off, don't grab the edge yourself because it seems like he can easily angle himself to just get back on the stage. Also, can't Olimar grab Ness when he is on the ledge? The list of characters Olimar can do that to is a good one to be familiar with.
 

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I think the only best thing that Ness had going for him was his edgeguarding. He pushed you outside with fair and grabbed the edge before you could. You should be more aggressive like that - like Shrink wrote, go for the pikmin toss. It'll screw his thunder, like I'm sure you know. But if his thunder does get off, don't grab the edge yourself because it seems like he can easily angle himself to just get back on the stage. Also, can't Olimar grab Ness when he is on the ledge? The list of characters Olimar can do that to is a good one to be familiar with.
Thanks for the advice and no olimar cant grab ness off the ledge.
 

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Comment to last 2vs2 vid: probably dumbest DDD I ever saw, the Falco wasn't that good either.
 

Zori

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Awesome videos, plenty to watch, keep it up.
kind words like *plenty to watch* make me feel good it shows that my videos are not the best but they entertain :) Anyways new vids up and a how to beat enjoy.
 

DanGR

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Beating a Bowser as Olimar isn't hard, though. Good matches.
IMO, he's the hardest and most underrated of the large characters(Ike,DDD,DK,Snake,Bowser) I find him harder than the rest b/c of his great priority, his fire, and his insane edgegame.
 

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I disagree Dangr, I would say DK is harder than bowser due to great tilts, LONG range, and really good bair. But I have played many more DK's than Bowsers, but I have played some really good bowsers. Anyways I love the 3rd video vs mario, where you get not one but TWO gimps, I LOVE Olimar gimping people.
 

Zori

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I disagree Dangr, I would say DK is harder than bowser due to great tilts, LONG range, and really good bair. But I have played many more DK's than Bowsers, but I have played some really good bowsers. Anyways I love the 3rd video vs mario, where you get not one but TWO gimps, I LOVE Olimar gimping people.
This is right in so many ways DK > Olimar he might be a counter to olimar, him and yoshi >_>
I swear yoshi is a counter but it is a hard match up. Also guys dont forget to vote for the next how to beat in the comments of the mario one.
 

Kabuto Mushi

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That first kill in the video vs. Gannondorf and Falco is the defintion of epic fail.

Edit: I just watched that Captain Planet/Falcon thing. Oh. My god. So nostalgic. What the heck? How about a superhero with a green mullet. OK. Yes. Why wasn't Olimar Mati? :laugh:
 

DanGR

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Haha, I loved it, just like the others. My favorite one is still mario's though. :)
 

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Zori I don't think you should stop updating. Your videos are not only awesome but funny to. Especially the How to beat Ice Climbers( you just have to laugh at that one.) On top of that you play an awesome Olimar so if you dtop it's like chain effect of death and boredom(sort of like the happening lol.)
But seriously though your video thread is more than appreciated so continue your efforts, because they are noticed.
 

Jadedlink

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Great friendly against Santi.

I will definitely try to make it to the next hobo. The Texas olimars need to meet. There are so few of us.

I heard about your opponents. :( Bad luck on the bracket.

And whats with the subliminal messages in your video? :)
 

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Dead last eh? Must have gotten a really unlucky first match. Who was it?
 
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