metalmonstar
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So I was looking into a number of money scams just out of curiosity when I ran into this one. At first I was going to make a topic on different scams for TOs to look out for but I didn't have as much substance with any of them beside this one. Anyway onto the topic.
Change Raising is a money scam in which you trick someone into giving you more money then you deserve. Hopefully that has strikes your curiosity. Before I continue though, do not replicate this in anyway. This scam is illegal and unethical.
Their are two variations to the scam but they operate under the same principle. The first is you go into a store with 20 dollars. You ask the clerk to make change for you. They give you a 10, 5, and five 1's. You go to pocket the money and realize that you didn't want ones. So you ask the clerk for a ten you hand then a 5 and four 1's. You ask them to count it. They realize you don't have enough. So you say, "forget it how about I give you another one and a ten and get my twenty back." You leave politely with an extra ten dollars in your pocket.
How did this occur? Well it is simple you have created a situation in which two transactions are occurring at once. Because you are in control of the scam, you are able to keep track of the money that is being passed around. The clerk is trying to do a good job and may possibly be flustered by your request. You use the confusion them to keep them from seeing the scam. By creating two transactions, you have allowed yourself to begin trading with the clerks money. That is how you earn an extra ten. You pocketed the first ten you got then traded the clerks money to get your twenty back.
The second variation is buying something small and paying with a large bill. Then you manipulate the change you wish to get back.
So how does this apply to tournaments? Well it is simple, TOs often have to make change for a number of different players who are only caring tens and twenties. In my experience this random loss that the TOs may experience isn't so much of a scam but just careless error on the parties involved. Think back to your tournament experience, do you remember players passing around money making change amongst themselves and the TO? This is likely where the loss of money comes from. Without realizing it the TO has opened up multiple transactions. More often then not the players are passing around the TOs money to make change and not their own. This puts the TO in a difficult spot as they likely don't know they are out money until much later. This could mean that the TO has to put their own money in to cover the difference in the pot or let the pot suffer.
So how do you avoid this? TOs need to be vigilant about these transactions occuring. Try to if at all possible deal with one player and one transaction at a time. Another option, if the place has a cash register have the players make change there.
Players can help but making sure they have the correct change. Also if you find out you have an extra 5 or ten dollars, do the right thing.
Change Raising is a money scam in which you trick someone into giving you more money then you deserve. Hopefully that has strikes your curiosity. Before I continue though, do not replicate this in anyway. This scam is illegal and unethical.
Their are two variations to the scam but they operate under the same principle. The first is you go into a store with 20 dollars. You ask the clerk to make change for you. They give you a 10, 5, and five 1's. You go to pocket the money and realize that you didn't want ones. So you ask the clerk for a ten you hand then a 5 and four 1's. You ask them to count it. They realize you don't have enough. So you say, "forget it how about I give you another one and a ten and get my twenty back." You leave politely with an extra ten dollars in your pocket.
How did this occur? Well it is simple you have created a situation in which two transactions are occurring at once. Because you are in control of the scam, you are able to keep track of the money that is being passed around. The clerk is trying to do a good job and may possibly be flustered by your request. You use the confusion them to keep them from seeing the scam. By creating two transactions, you have allowed yourself to begin trading with the clerks money. That is how you earn an extra ten. You pocketed the first ten you got then traded the clerks money to get your twenty back.
The second variation is buying something small and paying with a large bill. Then you manipulate the change you wish to get back.
So how does this apply to tournaments? Well it is simple, TOs often have to make change for a number of different players who are only caring tens and twenties. In my experience this random loss that the TOs may experience isn't so much of a scam but just careless error on the parties involved. Think back to your tournament experience, do you remember players passing around money making change amongst themselves and the TO? This is likely where the loss of money comes from. Without realizing it the TO has opened up multiple transactions. More often then not the players are passing around the TOs money to make change and not their own. This puts the TO in a difficult spot as they likely don't know they are out money until much later. This could mean that the TO has to put their own money in to cover the difference in the pot or let the pot suffer.
So how do you avoid this? TOs need to be vigilant about these transactions occuring. Try to if at all possible deal with one player and one transaction at a time. Another option, if the place has a cash register have the players make change there.
Players can help but making sure they have the correct change. Also if you find out you have an extra 5 or ten dollars, do the right thing.
