Chain Grabs

[Chevy]

What I do is set the cpu in training mode to control and just DI away with my toe on the second controller. Assuming you don't just get someone to help.

 

[Kaysick]

What I do is set the cpu in training mode to control and just DI away with my toe on the second controller. Assuming you don't just get someone to help.

Thats a pretty smart idea, thanks for mentioning it.

 

[Chevy]

Did some testing, working on a list. These are the DI and approximate percent necessary to guarantee a re-grab. Anything other than what I posted can be jumped out of or otherwise trivially escaped. These are all done with D-throw.

: DI in < 20%
: N/A
: N/A
: N/A
: N/A
: N/A
: no DI or DI in < 8%
: no DI or DI in < 35%
: DI in < 90%
: no DI or DI in 65% - +200%
: DI in: 90% - +200%
no DI: 100% - +200%
: DI in: 70% - +200%
no DI: 80% - +200%
: DI in: < 10%

: N/A
: N/A
: N/A
: DI in: < 60%
no DI: < 40%
: N/A
: N/A
: N/A
: DI in: < 25%
no DI: < 40%
: N/A
: N/A
: N/A
: N/A
: N/A
: N/A
: DI in: < 60%
no DI: < 70%
: DI away: < 40%
: N/A
: N/A
: DI in: < 100%
no DI: < 50%
: N/A
: N/A
: N/A
: DI in: < 70%
no DI: < 10%
: N/A
: N/A
: N/A
: N/A
: DI in: < 20%
no DI: < 10%
DI away: < 10%

These were the minimum percents that I found they could be escaped at. Sometimes, they will go longer if your opponent doesn't react properly, or randomly the jump doesn't happen, it's weird. Anyway, it should provide a decent idea of when you can re-grab most the cast.

 

[pizzacato]

^ Thanks Chevy! I'm assuming DI away is our enemy?

 

[Chevy]

Mostly, except Ness, his double jump doesn't get him away in time if he DIs away.

 

[pizzacato]

Mostly, except Ness, his double jump doesn't get him away in time if he DIs away.

And that's the matchup against McBad's Ness in DFW.

 

[210stuna]

My poor Pink Fresh Lucas getting chain grabbed by Esam's Samus was a heart breaking moment, yet so beautiful at the same time

 

[Litt]

so I was told at tourney saturday, you can chaingrab both ness and metaknight from 30-60%, anyone wanna test these %s out?

 

[Chevy]

so I was told at tourney saturday, you can chaingrab both ness and metaknight from 30-60%, anyone wanna test these %s out?

I tested all of them already, they percents in my list should be fairly accurate. You might be able to get away with different percents/DI if your opponent is negligent.

 

[Litt]

hahah yeah but even if they are, and DI away as far as possible, you can just read the tech into another grab ;P

 

[Chevy]

hahah yeah but even if they are, and DI away as far as possible, you can just read the tech into another grab ;P

Maybe, Samus' grab is pretty slow though.

 

[pizzacato]

I "chain grab" this metaknight literally at any percents. Usually two or three regrabs until they remember to DI away so I chase with an upsmash. It works well into the mid 80s. It's pretty funny too. Everyone forgets that Samus can regrab.

 

[210stuna]

I "chain grab" this metaknight literally at any percents. Usually two or three regrabs until they remember to DI away so I chase with an upsmash. It works well into the mid 80s. It's pretty funny too. Everyone forgets that Samus can regrab.

Infinity?

 

[pizzacato]

Infinity?

lol yes. IT'S ALL I GOT

 

[DoctorFS]

I'm pretty sure in the case of Lucas that the regrab is not guaranteed. After seeing the video of ESAM getting regrabs on Pink Fresh at Xanadu my friend and I tried to make it work and even at 0% Lucas can DI away from the straight regrab, and even the tech chase from when he hits the ground isn't that great. If your timing is good you can catch someone with no DI for a few regrabs, but it's really just a sign that they don't know the matchup IMO.

Edit: tried to post this before a bunch of other people replied, not sure why my comment took so long to show up.