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's Smashes and Specials are ridiculously strong. Inexperienced players can't dodge nor combo efficiently, and Ganondorf can't easily be KO'd with regular moves alone, so he is basically uncounterable. The exact same things happen with and , however, since not every single one of their Specials is a kill move, they're lower. and are extremely fast and have extremely large potential to output damage. Mac is higher because he's easier to play, and KO Punch is almost always a 1HKO.Cloud's sword is MASSIVE so he's awesome. He also has really rad hair, comes from one of the most popular FF games, and is easy to play. Insta top tier. has a sword that can spontaneously combust, and he wears cool red and blue armour and has wild red hair. Some random Johnny also probably will hear from the Internets that Roy's Neutral Special can 1HKO and tell his friends, which means he's automatically god-like and thus people will spam that move trying to get the maximum charged hit thinking it's easy. HOWEVER, looks all buff in this game, which automatically means he's stronger.spamming is so easy with this dude! is a gorilla and Neutral Special is a charge-up move, so of course he's strong. is a legendary and "THE MOST POWERFUL POKEMON IN THE WORLD!" (not really) and a Gen 1 Pokemon, gotta be strong.is massively cool, has very strong Smashes and can spam easily. probably wouldn't be played much because he's such a bizarre character, but once someone picks him up and notices you can camp with him, and, of course, camping is uncouterable, he'd be held as one of the best characters in the game. is strong and is Megaman.is the same as Mario but his Down Special isn't useless, right, right?!is really fast and you can just spam fireballs and Smashes and win. Too bad his Down Special is useless, right?is even faster and you can just spam Specials and Smashes and win. Too bad his games are worse than Mario's, right?has a cool sword, voice and mask, too bad he actually takes skill to play, eh?has aura which is awesome and he is so strong and such a cool Pokemon! until you get a 9.spam, but she's slow and a woman!spam, but he's slow and a fat penguin!he has a totally rad massive sword with a lightsabre inside! Too bad he's so slow!is a robot that fires big lasers and looks really creepy and cool.is rad, his Down Special makes people trip, you can spam lasers to stun people, but he runs so slow!he's the exact same thing as Falco, except he runs faster but his laser doesn't stun! Awww!he's the best Gen 6 starter, but how the hell do you use him, you can't spam anything properly!what the hell is this anime character? At least he looks cool, unlike ! What anime did they escape from, seriously?! And they both play exactly the same, I assure you there's no difference at all!is strong, but he almost can't recover when compared to Mario, and his pills are harder to aim so I can't spam! Awwwwww!there are too many damn anime characters in this game! This dude has some weird bent sword, and you can spam his magic but not nearly as easily as the others! UUUUUGH!who the hell is this anime woman?! I know she's really fast and strong and easy to use, but she's an anime woman, and I can't even spam with her!what?! This is the exact same thing as the other anime woman but she hits even weaker! I can't deal more damage with her at all! This woman sucks in comparison to the other anime woman! Why does she exist if I can't deal more damage with her? Why does the tip of her sword shines when you swing it, it doesn't make any sense!it's a Pikachu, no way he's stronger than the strongest Pokemon ever, , or the second strongest, .it's a baby! And how on Earth are you supposed to spam with his projectiles?!how in bloody hell do you use him?I hate all of these complicated characters that have these projectiles you can't spam!people say Shoryuken kills early, but I don't see it! They say it's an "input" Shoryuken, but I input like you're supposed to and it's so weak! another woman I can't spam with!his moves are so weak and you can't recover!it's Link, but a child! How on earth is he in the roster when Link is clearly a much better character!they're princesses, they must be so weak!atleast I can use the other stupid princesses!weakest man in the game! I can't spam and his Smashes all suck!a damn anime woman that I can't use and it's really hard to spam with her!they're children! And how the hell do you recover with them?!it'd a female balloon, of course it sucks! Down Special does nothing, it literally puts you to sleep!IT'S A DAMN YOGA TEACHER, THIS SUCKS!
Why do you say "Meta Knight has bad hitboxes"?
Because you need a certain level of finesse to use him.
I get it.
Sadly, little 8 year Johnny probably would look at Lucina and never use her since she's an anime girl from some game he's never heard of, really.
Truth be told, I hate female anime characters and don't believe they deserve a place in Smash. But that's just me.
Aww...
little 10 year old me had never heard of any of the series in Brawl outside of Mario and Pokemon. I still used the characters because I liked how they played.
Some of us were less averse to the idea of playing some character we didn't know, some of us weren't. I actually liked the characters I had no idea where they came from (Mr. G&W, Cpt. Falcon, Ness), but some of my friends wouldn't even look twice at characters like Marth or Ice Climbers.
I know, right?
because lots of casual know how to properly manage Luma so it doesn't get killed 5 seconds after it respawns, right?S:
A: Everybody else.
That's moot when you bring every item in the vicinity to you with the press of a button.
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basically this. looking at these lists im a litle surprised that villager and palutena are both so low. in a 4 person ffa with items palutena has a reflector and a counter. thats extrmely valuable. plus her usmash and fsmash are huge thats a huge plus. a lot of players ted to underestimate causual players they do know defensive specials are amzing in items.
You're right! How silly of me to put the Goddess of Light, Lady Palutena, in S tier with Zero Suit Samus. Obviously she should be put in SSS+ tier due to her divinity.
If divinity alone gets you to SSS+ then Rosalina must be in SSSSS in tier.
should not be on there/is not much a casual character (compared to 64 and Brawl's version), as it didn't appeal to me personally to play him on a casual level./ up to A or S, as I love the moveset, it really is fun to use when goofing around.on the list as a potential B or A, because I picked her up during a friendly a few days ago and I honestly found her kind of fun for a while. The only thing I don't like his her Dair -- I'd rather her Down-Air be like Lucario's imho. But that's just me
Funny. Palutena is pretty bad in casual play, at least from what I've seen. She's very light, so characters like Bowser and Ganondorf kill her super early, her recovery is hard to control, and I don't feel like casual players would care much for her specials.
Casuals have no idea how to use his specials or advanced button commands. So basically you're limited to spamming smash attacks and aerials then.
Eh, maybe. I dunno.
At least in my experience. Casual / New players tend to lean towards heavy hitters. In Smash 4 Ike, Little Mac, Cloud. And stay away from characters with higher learning curves such as Jigglypuff or Shulk saying that they are garbage characters. So for the most part yea, you just flip the legitimate tier list.So from one quick look, I'm seeing it as the worst characters are S-tier and vice-versa, mostly. I mean I'm seeing Shiek, considered one of the best characters in the game if not the best, is now considered the worst, and Bowser, who not really one of the worst chars but is still low-tier, is the best character in the game on your list (Now that we can all agree on
That is extremely true.
Definitely. Its insane how much casuals use rock kirby, or really any move that shoots them quickly to the ground and attacks (there might be a a technical term for moves like this, but whatever), also kirby has his down-b hammer, which has lots of damage and knock back, so casuals love it. Kirby should really be at least A tier.
well causuals and hardcore agree on those characters then. but i'd argue and counter is amaing in ffa/casual play. and shulk (currently) has the best counter.
But Shulk and Jigglypuff are garbage...
Jiggs is great if you know how to play her! Granted she's not as good as she was in Melee or PM.
Well, I think she's very fun and unique. However, I quite honestly think she's the worst character in competitive play.
Which is fine.
Jiggs is garbage Shulk is mediocre in everything, yet a Shulk main is SOMEHOW in top 20 in California. He's doing something that the rest of us are not.
