Can Falco chaingrab?

[Drolian]

It seems possible with up-throws against fast-fallers.

I usually just down-throw and laser then regrab, down-throw and laser and regrab = techchase.

 

[udikq]

Falco can chaingrab another falco with bthrows. Works somehow on fox and c.falcon too.

 

[KyUuKyUu]

He can't really. Uthrow can sorta work on fastfallers at 0% if they don't DI or anything, bthrow works if they don't do anything after they land, fthrow can work like three times at 0%, dthrow techchase is the only one that can work consistently, but it's not really a chaingrab.

 

[pockyD]

there's also the fun dthrow chain on fox (doesn't really work of course)

 

[Drolian]

there's also the fun dthrow chain on fox (doesn't really work of course)

xD I know that one.

Thanks everyone.

 

[v3x?]

upthrow dont work you can jump asap so that dont work, a nice one is back throw but they can di and roll away ect only dthrow techchase

 

[Mr.C]

when people di fthrows and bairs wrong u can usually get an extra grab

 

[Nurok]

usually when a falco chaingrabs it means 2 things:
1.the person is absolutly horrible and is a scrub
2. the guy you're playing is eating pizza while playing

so basically, falco can't chaingrab. at all.
(besides the dthrow for fox, which is easily escapable)
not trying to be mean

 

[gtfo]

what about dthrow

 

[Nurok]

v.v
dthrow is not a chaingrab if your opoonent is a comptetant fox.
if hes not
it is.

 

[Silent Wolf]

That's not counted as a chain grab. Anything esle Falco has like that is also not counted. He doesn't have one, and never will.

 

[Nurok]

thank you for reiterating my point Silent.
=)

 

[Silent Wolf]

You posted as I was making mine, no fair.

 

[Mr.C]

usually when a falco chaingrabs it means 2 things:
1.the person is absolutly horrible and is a scrub
2. the guy you're playing is eating pizza while playing

so basically, falco can't chaingrab. at all.
(besides the dthrow for fox, which is easily escapable)
not trying to be mean

ive 2x even 3x grabbed players like pc chris, caveman, flt etcetc
getting grabbed twice doesnt mean the person sucks
it means you got caught off guard and your opponent capitalized.

how do you think fox gets fsmashed from falco after a bthrow?
its because he DI up or towards the throw, its the same thing as getting in another grab from bad di but replacing the grab with a fsmash, and everyone and there mother has been bthrow fsmashed, every good falco player will try to get a quick kill from a bthrow fsmash and alot of the time it works
that doesnt mean the person sucks it means they made a mistake and got punished.

and since good foxs know bthrow fsmash is always a move falco can use
most fox's DI back so if the falco throws back another grab/fsmash/jab will not hit
so you can usually fthrow they DI wrong and get another grab
its very simple, easy and works vs everyone.

but technically its not a chain grab lol
but i had to point out 2x-3x grabs is possible vs even pros

 

[Plairnkk]

yeah mrc, thats too good with falco vs fox. dthrow like twice to make the fox DI away from the throw, then sneak a back throw-->fsmash, lol.

 

[Nurok]

I'm just saying it isn't a chain grab and i believe a chain grab is like a 0-50% grab combo.
getting 2 grabs in is what i call a techchase.
But usually, if a falco can "chaingrab" a fox, it usually means the other person sucks(and by chaingrab, more then 50% combo using only grabs)

 

[Mr.C]

oh, well then yes if a person is grabbed to 50%+ from a falco they suck lol

 

[Nurok]

exactly.
=)

 

[W.Jr]

yes falco can chaingrab fox, but you throw downwards.

 

[Nurok]

falco
can
not
chain
grab
at
all
didn't you guys at least read mine and Mr.cs posts?
and Silent wolf.
Jeez...
a chaingrab is inescapable, and Falcos Dthrow is very easily escapaable.

 

[Tipo mastr]

Falco has no reliable way to chaingrab any skilled foe. The closest thing to a chaingrab is his downthrow on fox and pichu. It is very viable to get a couple extra grabs out of this. HOWEVER, it is very easily DIed out of. If you're REALLY having trouble, just DI away, and hold L/R and the cstick the same way you're DIing. This should make you roll away from falco about as soon as you possibly can.

Now, simply because you can't chain grab with the down throw doesn't mean it's useless. If you watch some of Bombsoldier's videos versus Fox, you can see he uses dthrow-dsmash a lot...this is almost unstoppable, so I'd say abuse it as much as you can (without your opponent catching on of course ).

 

[super_nintendo]

Maybe................we'll see...............

 

[Nurok]

no one said it wasn't useful.
All grabs are useful, if you know to do with it.
-edun

 

[Cheezzhead]

Falco has no reliable way to chaingrab any skilled foe. The closest thing to a chaingrab is his downthrow on fox and pichu. It is very viable to get a couple extra grabs out of this. HOWEVER, it is very easily DIed out of. If you're REALLY having trouble, just DI away, and hold L/R and the cstick the same way you're DIing. This should make you roll away from falco about as soon as you possibly can.

Now, simply because you can't chain grab with the down throw doesn't mean it's useless. If you watch some of Bombsoldier's videos versus Fox, you can see he uses dthrow-dsmash a lot...this is almost unstoppable, so I'd say abuse it as much as you can (without your opponent catching on of course ).

to add to this statement: even a CPU lvl 1 DI's, so just forget it.

 

[terr13]

Dthrow-Dsmash on a Fox doesn't always work. The Fox can DI out of the range, and I also heard that the Fox can sometimes shine the Falco out of Dthrow

 

[mark.]

^hmm ive never seen that before.

ive made a pointless thread about this before, but no, falco cant, except fox.

did anyone forget that he can cg a fox with uthrow and bthrow too? o.o

 

[GamerGuitarist7]

someone might have said this but fthrows chain against bowser if you're quick

 

[NusCirtap]

When I dthrow kdj, he wavedashes in front of me and shines before I can dsmash. The best option would be to wdash back fsmash or fsmash as plairnnk said. Some people don't do anything so you can do anything you want. Some people shield right away which allows you to grab again, some people just shine without moving/di and you can dsmash/fsmash. Even people that know what to do, if you do it quick and randomly a dsmash may work cause they can di the wrong way on accident though they might shine.

^Is the fthrow on bowser real... I haven't done it but it sounds like something the bowser can easily escape. But I don't really fight bowsers a lot so what do I know.

Falco doesn't have a chainthrow.

 

[ApolloX54]

Yeah, fox can easily shine Falco out of a chain throw. I do it all the time....

 

[TheKneeOfJustice]

Non-teched Down Throws offer some neat re-grabs via a jab or u-tilt to pop them back up, but by no means could it be considered a chain grab.