Camping ~ Legit, or it should quit?

[~ Gheb ~]

That's barely possible against Wolf

 

[FrozenHobo]

YOU'RE NOT TRYING HARD ENOUGH! i don't find wolf to be an impossible matchup, even if he's camping...

 

[M15t3R E]

Like I said, If I encounter another campy Wolf I'll just skull bash over to his side of the field which will probably cause him to retreat and continue camping from the opposite side. Eventually, that may make him stop camping.
Also, if I get f-smashed, I need to counter it better with shieldgrabbing. I'll play smarter next time.

 

[FrozenHobo]

Like I said, If I encounter another campy Wolf I'll just skull bash over to his side of the field which will probably cause him to retreat and continue camping from the opposite side. Eventually, that may make him stop camping.
Also, if I get f-smashed, I need to counter it better with shieldgrabbing. I'll play smarter next time.

wolf's lasers can stop skull bash and leave you open for punishment. maybe a quick attack string to move in and confuse him may work. plus with that you can go in over him and surprise the **** out of him. maybe even lead to a bthrow over the edge if you're lucky.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

lol skullsmash as an approach...how about Neutral B -> dair?

 

[Sesshomuronay]

Lol Skull bash is brokedz. It only takes a short amount of time to charge and the lag is very high and easily stoppable by projectile moves. Plus its predictible and all they have to do in jump or block.

Easily the best move in the game.

 

[M15t3R E]

Uhh guys...
You don't understand what I said at all. I meant I will skull-bash above him where he cannot reach me, NOT close to the ground. That's how I will get over to him. It would be safer that way than with QAC'ing.

 

[FrozenHobo]

Uhh guys...
You don't understand what I said at all. I meant I will skull-bash above him where he cannot reach me, NOT close to the ground. That's how I will get over to him. It would be safer that way than with QAC'ing.

i don't play pika, but an overhead approach would be bad too because of wolf's ridiculous up smash reach. you'll get punished with that kind of approach. of the ideas recommended, i do have to agree that a double jump -> neutral b -> dair seems like a good approach.

 

[M15t3R E]

FrozenPopo, I recall trying that exact same approach. It's ridiculously easy for a camping Wolf to counter that.
He has something called a reflector if you've never heard of it. Then it's pretty easy to avoid my dair and use its landing lag to land a far-reaching f-smash.

Thanks for the useless advice guys.
A few of you actually helped, though. I think I know now how to play smarter against annoying campers.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Mister_E go away, if you don't appreciate our help.

 

[M15t3R E]

I shouldn't have bothered to ask in the first place. You guys know Wolf, but you don't know Pika. Asking was pointless- I see that now.

Yes, close this thread please.

 

[FrozenHobo]

FrozenPopo, I recall trying that exact same approach. It's ridiculously easy for a camping Wolf to counter that.
He has something called a reflector if you've never heard of it. Then it's pretty easy to avoid my dair and use its landing lag to land a far-reaching f-smash.

Thanks for the useless advice guys.
A few of you actually helped, though. I think I know now how to play smarter against annoying campers.

if he uses the reflector then he's open for attack. if you can't even hurt him while he's unprotected then you deserve to get killed.

 

[Ishiey]

Not to hate, but instead of saying that we're useless why not go someplace where people will be able to help you out? Pika should be able to approach easy, neutralB in the air to bait reflector, and then go in right afterwards to punish its lag, if he rolls out of it (for some reason) then shieldgrab if you expect a fsmash, otherwise you're doing fine. Really, how hard can it be? Pikachu can approach fine, if anything it just takes some timing skills. Look at how anther approaches in some of his vids. And this wasn't even your original question, lol.

 

[M15t3R E]

If I use my thunder jolt when I'm far above him, he'll use reflector. If he can't safely use reflector without being punished, he won't use his reflector but will avoid it another safer way.
Either way it's not going to work.

I just need to bait him to attack, that's all. The suggestion of shieldgrabbing constantly is the best idea I've heard.
I probably didn't rely on it enough the first time.

And seriously, you guys can close the thread now. x_x

 

[Sliq]

Camping is a good way to stunt your growth as a player.

End thread.

 

[slimpyman]

haha i use the b move religiously. like a bible, people hate it. its so **** good, you can even use it as a melee attack... 2good4u.

 

[Sliq]

haha i use the b move religiously. like a bible, people hate it. its so **** good, you can even use it as a melee attack... 2good4u.

Yes, listen to the man with 42 posts.

 

[1337_w01f]

lol thing bout camping is that only noobs do it, any decent player shuld b able to counter it fairly easily, ive tried camping numerous times and it usually ends up with some heavy punishment for me(wolf main), camping when nessecary is good but it generally shuld b limited since imo its dangerous in most situations, there are heaps of ways to get campers just improvise

 

[Kikuichimonji]

Yes, listen to the man with 42 posts.

It's not like it's any stupider than listening to the guy that mains Bowser. :D Or Link, for that matter.

 

[Sliq]

It's not like it's any stupider than listening to the guy that mains Bowser. :D Or Link, for that matter.

The logic police are here to arrest you for first degree murder, because you just killed my brain with your dumb.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

haha i use the b move religiously. like a bible, people hate it. its so **** good, you can even use it as a melee attack... 2good4u.

This man speaks truth