Data Bowser: Hitboxes and Frame Data [3.6]

[Taytertot]

what makes you think he was nerfed. he seems pretty buffed to me.

 

[Sartron]

This is a strange request, but when you finish compiling the guide for the 3.6 frame data, could you host this old frame data somewhere else? I'm convinced that Bowser has been heavily nerfed from 3.5 to 3.6 and being able to use this guide as a reference would be very helpful in further studies

I'll leave Bowser's 3.5 data in the second post.

 

[Zigludo]

I'll leave Bowser's 3.5 data in the second post.

thank you =)

 

[Bome_sall]

Good god, Bowser's ledge jump below 100% is insanely fast! Like, he can invincible waveland on the side platforms of fountain, warioware, yoshi's, battlefield, and even dreamland. If I had the ability I'd do it myself, but someone should make gifs of his invincible ledge jump wavelands :D.

Then again I haven't played PM in a while so I'm not sure if this was a thing previously or not haha.

 

[AuraMaudeGone]

Question, how come his Auto-Canceled aerials have worse shield advantage than his L-Cancelled ones?

 

[Taytertot]

Question, how come his Auto-Canceled aerials have worse shield advantage than his L-Cancelled ones?

my guess is that the frame advantage is worse because bowser has to be pretty high up to autocancel aerials and so the amount of frames he needs to fall in order to get an autocancel is more then the amount of hitlag the opponent goes through so its safer on shield for bowser to just throw out an aerial just before hitting the ground and just L-canceling it so the endlag of the move is canceled (because his L-canceled landing lag probably has less frames then the frames of endlag on bowsers aerials). sorry if i said that in a confusing way.

 

[Sartron]

Question, how come his Auto-Canceled aerials have worse shield advantage than his L-Cancelled ones?

As Tayter said, you have to wait for the auto-cancel window to open up which is usually pretty far into the move, so you'd also have to be pretty high into the air. A lot of auto-cancel windows are just flat out impossible/unrealistic or just absolutely horrendous in advantage as a result.

It's not as simple as shieldstun - empty landing.

 

[AuraMaudeGone]

Thanks for the explanation guys! :D

 

[Taytertot]

Thanks for the explanation guys! :D

definitely. glad to help. it would be nice if bowser was given something that autocanceled safer on shield like ganon has but i guess bowser does already have flame canceling, sideB, grab and grounded upB for pretty safe shield pressure.

 

[Zigludo]

*uses sticky magic*

I wish Bowser's rolls and stuff didn't suck.

WISH GRANTED

 

[shairn]

What'S up with Bowser's hurtboxes flying out during UpB