Bowser Grabs and Edgeguards

[Overswarm]

I love Bowser's throws. The feeling of grabbing someone, throwing them, and then hitting them with something like a launched u-air or a tech chased fair/f-tilt/smash is pretty good. Throwing or hitting them off stage and edegguarding successfully with d-tilts and fairs and dairs and fire and other shenanigans is also equally good.

But very rarely are these guaranteed grab combos and all too often are our edgeguards determined by reaction times and reads. Almost all are determined by DI and many of them are relying just as much on your opponent as you! So rather than try to just "remember" all these DI-centric grab combos / edgeguards, I figured it'd be easier to crowd source it.

Whenever you see a video where a bowser

• gets a grab (over b counts) / hits someone off stage
• combos or edgeguards off of it / kills off of it or does high damage
• and it is useful for other Bowsers to emulate

post the link in this thread and I'll make a thread showing them here. Get enough and we can have a Bowser grab/edgeguard video that is kind of a highlight reel of successful things done in the past on video.

You can get the timestamp from Youtube like that^

And it becomes this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XBmXALFcSus#t=337s

And you get the meat right away. Not the most impressive clip to a Bowser vet, but knowing that throwing Wolf off stage and d-tilting at the ledge for his up+b is important! Even more important when we see it happen a lot, resulting in many variations on that theme. What would Gimpyfish have done if the wolf had did his up+b differently? What does he do if Wolf grabs the ledge anyway? Can he?

That kinda stuff gets answered the more videos we have.

I've only done one video to start, but I'll get more myself later.

Grab to onstage combo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XBmXALFcSus#t=337s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XBmXALFcSus#t=575s


Edgeguards:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XBmXALFcSus#t=509s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XBmXALFcSus#t=609s

 

[Gimpyfish62]

that clip where i'm dtilting a few times was basically me option selecting his angles, he would've had a really REALLY tough time getting through those two initial down tilts had he done his angle differently. It was sort of sloppily done, but that was the idea (and it worked)

covering multiple options with bowser edgeguards is a privilege he's had since melee and it's only been made better with him being larger and having a lot more knockback.

 

[Chaos_Blasta]

Bowser's Bair has to be one of my favorite throws, simply becuase of how insanely good it can be when near the ledge at low %s. If you can somehow manage to smartly stall near the ledge and bait an attack you can easily dodge/shield, you can Bair them offstage and then follow up with a lot of stuff to keep them there like Nair, Fair, Jab, Dtilt, Up B ledgegrab, among other things. I have successfully and even consistently killed many different characters at 0% using this method. (I should have vids available of this soon, most likely)

I really like the second instance on that vid. A crouching bowser covers any get up attack and also the standing up and tech towards options assuming your positioning is smart. Something i also like to do, sometimes, is try to cover a tech with an Usmash (The range on that thing is so huge you can very well cover standing + another option.). If you hit with the coming-down part of the attack, it leaves your opponent into a loooot of hitstun which makes it very easy to follow up into anything to send offstage, or even kill vs certain characters (This technique is most effective vs spacies from personl experience)

 

[Ace55]

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Bowser's Bair has to be one of my favorite throws,

I know what you meant but it still had to lol.

 

[Chaos_Blasta]

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I know what you meant but it still had to lol.

Herpaderp.

and no kidding, i spent 10 minutes reading your post, thinking to myself "I don't get it, what's so funny about my post?". <.<;

 

[magicmanfk]

A couple of my friends and I finally got around to getting a capture card, so this is the first time any of these vids have been posted. I'm the Bowser. Feel free to use whatever you think is useful. The matches aren't the most awesome but there's some good stuff in all of them.

Fire edgeguard + fair finish (Peach):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6dWicKuCQxQ#t=162s

Repetitive getup attack (Peach):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6dWicKuCQxQ#t=220s

General edgeguarding (Peach)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Z_Zek6bI3HA#t=29s

Edgehog -> fair (Link)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=o8-pZTqDwyI#t=147s