NESSBOUNDER
Smash Master
I'm pretty disappointed with everyone who was speaking ill of me during this whole issue with the chain grab. Despite my descision to switch mains, I was still fighting harder than a lot of you to impose a ban. However, thanks to some more research done by others, it turns out that Lucas is a lot better off than poor Ness, only being able to be infinite grabbed by Marth and Pokemon Trainer.
Even then, we will still be at a competitive disadvantage due to certain characters being able to string KO moves from grabs. But since the threat of so many infinites are gone, now we truly WILL be able to use it to our advantage.
All it means is that Lucas players will need to establish more trust in their secondaries. If you haven't considered a bodyguard for your Lucas, I suggest you think about it if you want to have an easier time competitively.
It all comes down to who you fear the most: Marth, Pokemon Trainer, or some other character with next to infinite grabs and a strong KO move (like Snake.)
My personal recommendation is Lucario. Due to his range and excellent hitboxes, he is one of the best match-ups against Marth, and can compete with the swordsman on an equal level. He even has a few advantages against Marth, including disjointed hitboxes which linger, as apposed to Marth's single quick hits, and the ability to gimp Marth with ease.
His playing style also has a resemblance to Lucas, and he has similar air control. He doesn't have too much trouble dealing with Pokemon trainer either.
Lucario can gain grab Snake up to 60-70% at the start of a stock with his force palm, providing he's under 50% himself. He also has the hitboxes to deal with Snake, and double team as well as the range of his Fsmash can keep him and his shield safe from grenades. He doesn't fail against PT either.
Anyone else care to make suggestions for good counter-picks to support a competitive Lucas?
Even then, we will still be at a competitive disadvantage due to certain characters being able to string KO moves from grabs. But since the threat of so many infinites are gone, now we truly WILL be able to use it to our advantage.
All it means is that Lucas players will need to establish more trust in their secondaries. If you haven't considered a bodyguard for your Lucas, I suggest you think about it if you want to have an easier time competitively.
It all comes down to who you fear the most: Marth, Pokemon Trainer, or some other character with next to infinite grabs and a strong KO move (like Snake.)
My personal recommendation is Lucario. Due to his range and excellent hitboxes, he is one of the best match-ups against Marth, and can compete with the swordsman on an equal level. He even has a few advantages against Marth, including disjointed hitboxes which linger, as apposed to Marth's single quick hits, and the ability to gimp Marth with ease.
His playing style also has a resemblance to Lucas, and he has similar air control. He doesn't have too much trouble dealing with Pokemon trainer either.
Lucario can gain grab Snake up to 60-70% at the start of a stock with his force palm, providing he's under 50% himself. He also has the hitboxes to deal with Snake, and double team as well as the range of his Fsmash can keep him and his shield safe from grenades. He doesn't fail against PT either.
Anyone else care to make suggestions for good counter-picks to support a competitive Lucas?
