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I am rather disappointed they seemed to only consider the Number. 1 worldwide character on the ballot.

I mean, I get the work is very difficult and all, but did they even consider the top three or five at the very least?
To be fair, it makes the most sense to look at Number 1. As they are the winner.

You don't give the gold medal to the one that was in third place after all.

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To be fair, it makes the most sense to look at Number 1. As they are the winner.

You don't give the gold medal to the one that was in third place after all.

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Yeah, but to be that high I'd imagine they'd have to be pretty dang popular too.

If that many people evidently want them in, they should at least be considered too, instead of just brushing the other top contenders off entirely. They might not have been the top majority, but it'd be unfair to only consider the rest if they came so close.

I won't deny that looking at the number. 1 contender makes the most sense, but there are many other characters with large fanbases that have been wanting them for a long time. I don't exactly see the ballot as being a "contest", I saw it as being something that fans would be used to show the characters that were wanted most, a massive suggestions poll of a sort.

All I'm really trying to say is that I'd like to know if the other top contenders that were slightly below the "winner" were at least considered. I'm hoping this matter will have some light shed upon it eventually.
 
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Iirc someone said that Bayonetta wasn't really on the list for Japan.. when she was announced Japanese players were like "Who"

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Yeah, but to be that high I'd imagine they'd have to be pretty dang popular too.

If that many people evidently want them in, they should at least be considered too, instead of just brushing the other top contenders off entirely. They might not have been the top majority, but it'd be unfair to only consider the rest if they came so close.

I won't deny that looking at the number. 1 contender makes the most sense, but there are many other characters with large fanbases that have been wanting them for a long time. I don't exactly see the ballot as being a "contest", I saw it as being something that fans would be used to show the characters that were wanted most, a massive suggestions poll of a sort.
Still, I could argue that maybe it's for the better. Lord knows what the salt would've been if we saw those in second and third place knowing they're not getting in.

And hell the game's roster is already big enough as it is having 58 characters. I'm sure at this point the dev team wants to finally get a break after around four to five years of hard work.

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ballot
a process of voting, in writing and typically in secret.
This still doesn't justify only considering the very top contender.

Still, I could argue that maybe it's for the better. Lord knows what the salt would've been if we saw those in second and third place knowing they're not getting in.

And hell the game's roster is already big enough as it is having 58 characters. I'm sure at this point the dev team wants to finally get a break after around four to five years of hard work.
I completely understand that, Sakurai especially, given the issue with his arm.

Regardless, I still don't think it would necessarily be fair to consider only the very top contender. That's all I'm saying. And whether it's for the better that the other top results weren't shown, well, you certainly have a point there.
 

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This still doesn't justify only considering the very top contender.
Because that contender won fair an square and that Fighter Ballot works in the same way as an election.

Think about it; if getting just the top contender of the ballot isn't fair for you, is it any more fair to only get a single President after an election?
 
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I've finished watching Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back fully for the first time just now. It was nice to finally witness the iconic 'I am your father' scene in actual context. Will watch Episode VI later tonight.

I saw some Deadpool vs Saitama talk. We have no idea how powerful Saitama truly is but with Deadpool's healing factor and pretty much immortality, he'll just becoming a training dummy bag for Saitama. xD Also, Deadpool has died before but the way he dies is that...
An explosion destroys the entire Earth. That means to kill Deadpool completely, the entire world has to go down with him too. Damn!

 

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Because that contender won fair an square.

That Fighter Ballot works the same way as an election.

Think about it! If ONLY getting the top contender of the ballot isn't fair for you, is it any more fair to only get ONE President after the elections?
Alright, I understand your point when you posted the definition of "ballot", but I don't see how that's a fair comparison. These are video game characters who cannot speak for themselves, the voting occurring so that they may be selected as a character to be played as in a video game, particularly by their fans, not real people who are running to try and win a high seat of power as a country's leader. Furthermore, a political election is a much more carefully organized and complex matter, requiring for the candidates to speak up, share their mindsets, and plans if they succeed, etc. The video game characters are just that.....video game characters. With fans, who like them and their games and want to be able to play as them.

I do still understand the point you were trying to make by the definition of the word, but the comparison you made here doesn't sit well with me.
 
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Alright, I understand your point when you posted the definition of "ballot", but I don't see how that's a fair comparison. These are video game characters who cannot speak for themselves, the voting occurring so that they may be selected as a character to be played as in a video game, particularly by their fans, not real people who are running to try and win a high seat of power as a country's leader. Furthermore, a political election is a much more carefully organized and complex matter, requiring for the candidates to speak up, share their mindsets, and plans if they succeed, etc. The video game characters are just that.....video game characters. With fans, who like them and their games and want to be able to play as them.
But in both cases, the concept is the same; people voting for who they want to see for the next couple of years.

Also, these characters don't need to speak for themselves, because we can get to know them by either playing their games or a simple Google search.
 

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Alright, I understand your point when you posted the definition of "ballot", but I don't see how that's a fair comparison. These are video game characters who cannot speak for themselves, the voting occurring so that they may be selected as a character to be played as in a video game, particularly by their fans, not real people who are running to try and win a high seat of power as a country's leader. Furthermore, a political election is a much more carefully organized and complex matter, requiring for the candidates to speak up, share their mindsets, and plans if they succeed, etc. The video game characters are just that.....video game characters. With fans, who like them and their games and want to be able to play as them.

I do still understand the point you were trying to make by the definition of the word, but the comparison you made here doesn't sit well with me.
No, it stills works, admittedly I believe it's just you're looking at it in the wrong direction.

Sure, the characters can't represent themselves, but that's why the fans exist. We're the ones that put in who we want because either we like their games or the characters themselves. Much like how we vote for a politician through whether or not we like them or not.

It's less the characters themselves and more the Smash fans who support them. At least that's how I've viewed it since its release.
 
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But in both cases, the concept is the same; people voting for who they want to see for the next couple of years.

Also, these characters don't need to speak for themselves, because we can get to know them by either playing their games or a simple Google search.
No, it stills works, admittedly I believe it's just you're looking at it in the wrong direction.

Sure, the characters can't represent themselves, but that's why the fans exist. We're the ones that put in who we want because either we like their games or the characters themselves. Much like how we vote for a politician through whether or not we like them or not.

It's less the characters themselves and more the Smash fans who support them. At least that's how I've viewed it since its release.
You've both made valid points....and while there are some points that I still disagree with, I'm not going to debate on this particular part of subject any further than I already have, as it's starting to go into a different direction from my main point:

Regardless, I still don't think it would necessarily be fair to consider only the very top contender. That's all I'm saying..
I'll admit it's still relevant to it, but it's also now drawing comparisons between a video game ballot and political ballot, and I'd personally rather not continue to discuss that.
 
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I sure hope that was a joke. I wanted to drop out of it because I felt it was going into a different direction from my original point, not because politics in specific became involved with it. :glare:
 

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Of course it was a joke :lol:

But seriously, I don't see how it goes into a different direction.

All that happened is that we compared the ballot with something else for the sake of example.

I honestly don't see how it's a change of direction to your original point...but then again, maybe my vision is starting to be **** again.
 

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I find it kinda boring when someone decides to stop talking about a subject.

Nothing against you, KoP. I'd say and/or think that same thing no matter who did that.

I just like conversations...talking about stuff...things like that...

But I can't force people to do something they don't want, so if you want to leave the conversation, spread your wings and fly away from it...
 

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Don't get me wrong, I always enjoy a little healthy debate and conversation too. I enjoyed this very one too, even.

I'm not going to elaborate on why I felt like leaving this one behind again, though.
 
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