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[Luig]

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But since I only play Wii U, I didn't notice a difference lol

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Have you ever gotten to play the base game?
1.0.0?
Withe zss infinite on robin?

 

[LucarioDude]

17 Wii Fit Trainers getting ready for the new update to drop in less than 7 hours

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[The Stoopid Unikorn]

They're not noticeable, tho.

• She lost an infinite combo
• Her air dodge landing lag got 7 frames longer (Although even then, Uair still had less ending lag, so it never mattered)
• Uncharged Paralyzer, which is basically one of her main combo tools, also got more lag

Besides the second, all those little changes damaged her in a big way, but not enough to throw her out of top tier.

Have you ever gotten to play the base game?
1.0.0?
Withe zss infinite on robin?

I played 3DS with a friend's game on a few occasions, but I was mostly playing Bowser at the time. (He's still my second main to this day)

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[Kneutronic]

17 Wii Fit Trainers getting ready for the new update to drop in less than 7 hours

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[The Stoopid Unikorn]

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What are y'all's predictions?

New character(s). Yay or Nay?
New stage(s), not counting Mario Maker. Yay or Nay?
Balance patch. Yay or Yay?

 

[A10theHero]

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, let's hope for a kill confirm!
, don't worry, we'll make it through this patch together.
, , , , , BECOM TOP TIREZZZ

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

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Samus buffs when?

 

[LucarioDude]

23 dreams of Rayman being in Smash

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Samus buffs when?

Whenever we get an actual new Metroid game.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

24 updates

 

[Kneutronic]

, let's hope for a kill confirm!
, don't worry, we'll make it through this patch together.
, , , , , BECOM TOP TIREZ

, 2 OP must nerf another ninja.
, I think you need some buffs, you haven't changed since your nerfs in 1.0.4.

Seriously, if they're trying to make this a more balanced game, nerf all the perceived top tiers.

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[A10theHero]

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, 2 OP must nerf another ninja.
, I think you need some buffs, you haven't changed since your nerfs in 1.0.4.

Seriously, if they're trying to make this a more balanced game, nerf all the perceived top tiers.

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Instead of nerfing the top tiers, I'd prefer it if they buffed all the lower tiers.
And in all honesty, this game is already balanced. Since we focus on 1v1s only, it'll give the illusion of being unbalanced.

 

[LucarioDude]

27 unstoppable Ryus

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Needs more Guile theme for Suzaku Castle stage, please!

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Seriously, if they're trying to make this a more balanced game, nerf all the perceived top tiers.

They should also buff the lower-tiered characters to minimize the amount of nerfs needed to balance the game.

Needs more Guile theme for Suzaku Castle stage, please!

YES!!!

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[Luig]

• She lost an infinite combo
• Her air dodge landing lag got 7 frames longer (Although even then, Uair still had less ending lag, so it never mattered)
• Uncharged Paralyzer, which is basically one of her main combo tools, also got more lag

Besides the second, all those little changes damaged her in a big way, but not enough to throw her out of top tier.


I played 3DS with a friend's game on a few occasions, but I was mostly playing Bowser at the time. (He's still my second main to this day)

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Cool.
Not to sound like a donkey, but

1. Sonic's fsmash got 2 more frames of endlag
2. Spin dash to spin dash jump does 6% less
3. Bthrow isn't a reliable kill throw without rage
4. dair meteor has less kb
5. utilt 2 has less kb
6. Usmash kills 12% later
7. Fsmash has less kb growth

What buffs did we get?

1. No more cypher grabbing
2. Homing attack no longer targets luma, pikmin, dhd can etc.
3. More dair IASA

Yee

 

[Fluttershy]

26 PONIES to Hug

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

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#BringBackBowsercide2015

 

[A10theHero]

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Cool.
Not to sound like a donkey, but

1. Sonic's fsmash got 2 more frames of endlag
2. Spin dash to spin dash jump does 6% less
3. Bthrow isn't a reliable kill throw without rage
4. dair meteor has less kb
5. utilt 2 has less kb
6. Usmash kills 12% later
7. Fsmash has less kb growth

What buffs did we get?

1. No more cypher grabbing
2. Homing attack no longer targets luma, pikmin, dhd can etc.
3. More dair IASA

Yee

Admittedly, some of those nerfs were warranted, but at this point, it's overkill.

 

[Luig]

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They don't need to nerf high tiers.

BUFF THE FRIKIN LOW TIERS.

 

[A10theHero]

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I like how in Smash, putting on her power suit makes Samus worse. I cri lol every time.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Admittedly, some of those nerfs were warranted, but at this point, it's overkill.

Just like the games he's from

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[A10theHero]

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Just like the games he's from

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What are you talking about? It's not Sonic Boom Sonic.

 

[Kneutronic]

Instead of nerfing the top tiers, I'd prefer it if they buffed all the lower tiers.
And in all honesty, this game is already balanced. Since we focus on 1v1s only, it'll give the illusion of being unbalanced.

First of all... Yeah, either way works.

Second of all, I kinda feel like every character should be fit for 1v1 play, and no one should be so broken. I can use the nerf on Diddy Kong as an example, but I think that's way too obvious.

They should also buff the lower-tiered characters to minimize the amount of nerfs needed to balance the game.

That has been happening, but there needs to be more.

Already Meta Knight is up to the point that he's viable again, so we shouldn't worry about him anymore. But what of Samus? Mewtwo? Zelda? And as mentioned before, King Dedede? There's just too many changes to be made.

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[Fluttershy]

35 Palu hasn't gotten many Nerfs the only bad thing I know of is that SS cancelled up smash doesn't store the momentum like it did prior..

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

What are you talking about? It's not Sonic Boom Sonic.

inb4 update changes that

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[Luig]

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Remember balanced brawl? They buffed eveyone about to the level of diddy kong. Except Mk and a bit of snake.

Smash 4 should do that, not nerf high tiers, which gets more complaints than buffing characters.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

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S5 Episode 14 spoiler:

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[Metalbro]

Dat sig is spooky

42 bob-ombs

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Remember balanced brawl? They buffed eveyone about to the level of diddy kong. Except Mk and a bit of snake.

Smash 4 should do that, not nerf high tiers, which gets more complaints than buffing characters.

Melee SD Remix did a similar thing by buffing everyone except the top 6.

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[Kneutronic]

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This thread's moving too fast again.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

45 Princesses.

People say my new sig is spooky.

 

[LucarioDude]

46 Zero Suit Squid Girls

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[A10theHero]

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First of all... Yeah, either way works.

Second of all, I kinda feel like every character should be fit for 1v1 play, and no one should be so broken. I can use the nerf on Diddy Kong as an example, but I think that's way too obvious.

I disagree simply because it's always been this way. Heavies are better in free for alls because they last longer. Top tiers are bad at everything except 1-on-1. For example, who would you use in Home Run Contest: Ganondorf or Sheik? There are exceptions to this of course (), but Smash is first and foremost a party game so every character is balanced with that in mind.
Though I'd love to see all the lower-tiered characters buffed to the level of top tiers, the overall balance of Smash 4 would then be lopsided in favor of the lower tier characters (more specifically the heavies) across the board.

 

[Luig]

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Yeah, the reason nintendo is so hesitant to buff the heavies and seems to not be able to touch shiek is simply because
a. Heavies are great in ffas and shiek sucks
b. Japan's metagame is different

though a impacts it more.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

49 spooky sigs skeletons

 

[KingofPhantoms]

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Bah, I knew this picture wouldn't completely fit. Does it look alright, though?

The only heavy I'd like to get a buff is Dedede

 

[Luig]

51 is this post gaiz

 

[A10theHero]

52 main biases
In Japan's metagame, Sonic is tippity-top tier (becuz flat stages and muh running away), so that might contribute to why Sonic is getting nerfed a lot. And Mewtwo is mid tier there so that's why he's not getting anything either (he is very much underrated sadly).

 

[Kneutronic]

Though I'd love to see all the lower-tiered characters buffed to the level of top tiers, the overall balance of Smash 4 would then be lopsided in favor of the lower tier characters (more specifically the heavies) across the board.

...Yeah. Your point?

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[The Stoopid Unikorn]

The only heavy I'd like to get a buff is Dedede

But Dedede is already perfect

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[Luig]

52 main biases
In Japan's metagame, Sonic is top tier (becuz flat stages and muh running away), so that might contribute to why Sonic is getting nerfed a lot. And Mewtwo is mid tier there so that's why he's not getting anything either (he is very much underrated sadly).

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Yeah, we were talking about that in the Sonic social, I just wish they would take their and our opinions on the metagame equally, but sadly they don't.

In their meta, Shiek isn't as good also.