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Black Holes

Seed of Sorrow

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Ok, well I am doing a research paper on Black holes. Right now I need to right a paper about what could possible be true, more specifically:

"What you imagine might be true about [black holes] Be creative but reasonable."


So, what do you guys think about black holes based on ^^^^.




p.s. On an unrelated note, This the 3rd year anniversary of Dodongo's membership. Congratulations, you have been a member for 1,095 days. Did the math in my head.:p
 

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This isn't even about facts. They want you to say what you think might be true about black holes. Do it yourself.
 

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I am not asking for somebody to do it for me, but rather to gain insight as to what other people think could be true. It may come in useful to me when I write the full paper to use other ideas from first hand sources.


p.s. Already have done it.
 

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i think but im not to sure but blackholes appear after a star dies and implodes with a cool supernova. then they suck stuff up and no one knows where it goes.
 

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Okay I'll bite. Here's an opinion. You and any matter out in space will be ripped to shreds before being sucked into black hole. Also, another name for a black hole is a "formless void."

If you want more info, check out www.wikipedia.org. Type in "black holes" in the search engine. I think I'll go check it out just for the heck of it cause the topic is very intriging.
 

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I am not asking for somebody to do it for me, but rather to gain insight as to what other people think could be true. It may come in useful to me when I write the full paper to use other ideas from first hand sources.


p.s. Already have done it.
yeah i knew u wouldn't do that. to b honest i did this a couple of time before on some other websites. it helps to get another opinion
 

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howabout whether black holes destroy information or not? I'm not sure if that has been answered yet. TO help your search, it has something to do with hawking radiation/
 

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WARNING WARNING ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE LOOMS

Hopefully that caught your attention.

Think of space as a taut rubber sheet. Everything that has mass, like apples and oranges, toss them on the blanket. They bend it downward, which pulls lighter objects in their vicinity toward them. This attraction is gravity. The fruit are planets and stars and stuff.

A black hole is the result of when a large, large, LARGE star explodes, then collapses inward and tears the sheet. Things that orbited the star do not get sucked into the hole. Any foreign objects that cross a certain point, called the "event horizon", are doomed.

Once sucked past the event horizon, things are spaghettified, meaning they elongate in a sense that makes no sense in our laws of physics. Eventually they get sucked down the hole to the end of a black hole, where every single atom taken by the black hole is crushed into a ludicrously dense point called singularity. Scientists only have the most elementary idea about what singularity is... and more importantly, where it is. Where the hole leads.

What I'm trying to say is: Write about singularity. No one has any idea what it really is, so this is your best shot at an A.

-I
 

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Wow. EE's post had me thinking... What if our universe is a sphere just like the earth is? Everything we can see, touch, and experience is the surface of this sphere, and these black holes lead the things they suck up down to the core.

Meh, I'm probably wrong, but it sure was an interesting thought.
 

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WARNING WARNING ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE LOOMS

Hopefully that caught your attention.



A black hole is the result of when a large, large, LARGE star explodes, then collapses inward and tears the sheet. Things that orbited the star do not get sucked into the hole. Any foreign objects that cross a certain point, called the "event horizon", are doomed.

-I
I believe the term your looking for is emplosion or implosion. Just a little food for thought.

Also, that was an awesome comparision that you did with the black hole. Marvelous!:)
 

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I believe the term your looking for is emplosion or implosion. Just a little food for thought.
No, he meant explosion. No such word as emplosion. A supernova is essentially an exploding star... after it has exploded, it implodes (collapses in on itself, which is what he said).
 

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No, he meant explosion. No such word as emplosion. A supernova is essentially an exploding star... after it has exploded, it implodes (collapses in on itself, which is what he said).
Yeah yeah, I know, I just didn't know the spelling, but it is part of my vocabulary. I just wanted him to shorten it a bit. I'm an intellectual. I know what a supernova and an implosion is.
 

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What, is this is what is considered "intellectual" discussion, now? Basic science any middle schooler learns? :p.
Yes, it was an "intellectual" discussion. The guy who made this thread is most likely turning in an A report right now.

Sheesh, why do people with Bowser avatar's have to be so obxious?!
 

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Yes, it was an "intellectual" discussion. The guy who made this thread is most likely turning in an A report right now.

Sheesh, why do people with Bowser avatar's have to be so obxious?!
Are you kidding me? I understand the Pool Room isn't exactly a place for "intellectual" discussion, but there was pretty much nothing in this thread that was relevant at all. Why am I griping about this? Dunno, I guess lack of intelligent discussions annoys me. Sorry about lashing out, though.
 

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WARNING WARNING ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE LOOMS

Hopefully that caught your attention.

Think of space as a taut rubber sheet. Everything that has mass, like apples and oranges, toss them on the blanket. They bend it downward, which pulls lighter objects in their vicinity toward them. This attraction is gravity. The fruit are planets and stars and stuff.

A black hole is the result of when a large, large, LARGE star explodes, then collapses inward and tears the sheet. Things that orbited the star do not get sucked into the hole. Any foreign objects that cross a certain point, called the "event horizon", are doomed.

Once sucked past the event horizon, things are spaghettified, meaning they elongate in a sense that makes no sense in our laws of physics. Eventually they get sucked down the hole to the end of a black hole, where every single atom taken by the black hole is crushed into a ludicrously dense point called singularity. Scientists only have the most elementary idea about what singularity is... and more importantly, where it is. Where the hole leads.

What I'm trying to say is: Write about singularity. No one has any idea what it really is, so this is your best shot at an A.

-I

Amazing analogy, mind if I use that? Also, if it is not originally yours, could you give me the source? This will be very useful.

Wow. EE's post had me thinking... What if our universe is a sphere just like the earth is? Everything we can see, touch, and experience is the surface of this sphere, and these black holes lead the things they suck up down to the core.

Meh, I'm probably wrong, but it sure was an interesting thought.
Universe is somewhat spherical. There are curvatures in space time. Also, Black holes are not permanent, they aactually evaporate. I honestly don't know what you are trying to say here so I will just blurt out some info. Arern't I such a great person? :p

okay, here is the info:


sub atomic particles materialize from nothingness, collide, and annihilate themselves into oblivion, all within the billionth or trillionth of a second they exist. However, these sub atomic particles (called virtual pairs) can materialize near black holes and one may be pulled into the black hole while another escapes. Now, since this subatomic partical has nothing to collide with, it takes a small amount of energy from the gravitational field to become "real" matter thus taking a miniscual portion of the black hole making it smaller. The energy, is known as Hawking radiation.
 

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^ I don't know where EE got it from, but I saw it being used by a physicist on a documentary quite awhile ago. I've also used it quite a few times to help people understand and it's really useful.
 

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You need to read Universe in a Nutshell by Stephen Hawkings. He does a great job of explaining black holes on a lvl you could understand.


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Just remember to include that they are called 'black holes' because light can't escape, which means the light doesn't come back out to reflect on your retina, so technically it's there but it's invisible.This means if something is sucked into a black hole, after a while it just disappears.

Scientists can detect there locations using come sort of waves [ I can't remember anything about this part].
 

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A white hole is like one end of a wormhole right? If so it would probably be like a vacuum cleaner with a hole in the bag, matter would just fly out of the white hole [which is most likely in another part of the universe].
 

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This means if something is sucked into a black hole, after a while it just disappears.
Actually, if we were to send a ship inside a black hole, theoretically, it would look as if it were slowing down, the stop just as it reaches the event horizon. This is due to the fact that as you get to the event horizon light begins to circle infinitely constantly reflecting light.
 

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Yes, but after a certain point [I can't remember if it has a scientific name or not] you won't be able to see the ship because the light is stucked in as well.
 

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Oh my god you guys. Stop trying to talk theoretical physics.

Just do some google searches, check out some books and do your reading. You guys are hurting my head with all the crap your stringing together.
 

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Oh my god you guys. Stop trying to talk theoretical physics.

Just do some google searches, check out some books and do your reading. You guys are hurting my head with all the crap your stringing together.

Says the guy that:

1: Can not compile a grammatically correct sentence.
2: Has no information/ sources/ research to back up the claim that this is "crap".
3: Has not even attempted to produce any worthwhile information based on the subject, but rather an sloppy sentence badmouthing it.

Why are you even posting? If you have a problem with this thread, there is a red box with a white "X" in the corner, I suggest you click it.
 

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1: Can not compile a grammatically correct sentence.
Have no need to prove myself to you. Ill let my degree speak for me.

2: Has no information/ sources/ research to back up the claim that this is "crap".
HAHAHA!

3: Has not even attempted to produce any worthwhile information based on the subject, but rather an sloppy sentence badmouthing it.
I gave a book that explains things on a lvl which is understandable. Its the best I can do given my audience. Nice sentence by the way.

Why are you even posting? If you have a problem with this thread, there is a red box with a white "X" in the corner, I suggest you click it.
It is now clicked.
 

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Alright,

1: was kind of in a bad mood that day, so I kind of snapped on something pretty insignificant, so I apologize, are we cool, Mad Hatter? p.s. lawls, at that "an sloppy sentence" :p.

2: since this thread is almost killed, I am just going to give one last bit of information

That rubber analogy EE had given was from Albert Einstein.

Kays, peace.
 
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