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[bivunit94]

Biv's Super-Duper Character Predictions
Hello, and welcome to Biv's Character Predictions. I'll be updating this thread with new stage, item, and/or gameplay ideas later, but for now, let's just get the characters out of the way...

Characters

Mario Series:

Mario

CONFIRMED!

The heart and soul of Nintendo, Mario, is back for his 3rd time in Smash. Recognizable by gamer and non-gamer alike, Mario is probably the most popular video game character to date. With his appearance in Brawl, and his upcoming game, Super Mario Galaxy, the man with the mustache will have no problem staying in the spotlight.

Luigi

Since the GameCube's release, Luigi has quit standing in the shadow of his big brother. His starring role in Luigi's Mansion, and his important roles in the Mario & Luigi handheld games, along with the fact that he was one of the original 12 smashers, leaves no doubt that Luigi will be returning.

Peach

Peach is another Mario character that has recently showed their fighting spirit, in her new game, Super Princess Peach. Hopefully in Brawl, she will use a moveset based on her moves from this game, and ditch the godly-powerful moveset from melee. It seems that Peach is ditching the "damsel in distress" role, and is now increasing in importance in the Mario games. Simply put, Peach is practically guarunteed.

Bowser

CONFIRMED!

The main villain of the Mario franchise, the king of koopas is a shoe-in for Brawl. He appeared in Melee, and he's been important to the world of video gaming since Super Mario Bros. Hopefully his speed will be improved, and his power decreased, so that he doesn't suck. We'll almost definitely be seeing this villain make an appearance, and that doesn't need much explaining.

Geno

Replacing Paper Mario on my roster, Geno seems like a very highly supported character with a unique story and the potential for a good moveset. I'll be honest, I never played Super Mario RPG, so by no means am I a full supporter of this character. But from what I've seen, Geno looks deserving, so I'll be fine if he gets in.

Mario Series Total: 5

Legend of Zelda Series:

Link

CONFIRMED!

The hero of Hyrule is back, and he's brought his look from TP with him. The main protagonist of the Legend of Zelda series, Link was no surprise. Incredibly high reviews for TP are no surprise either, and hopefully he'll be just as awesome in Brawl as he was in his own game. His Final Smash is amazing, by the way.

Zelda

CONFIRMED!

Despite playing a minimal role in Twilight Princess, Zelda is still one of the main protagonists of the Zelda series. It is named after her, after all. Hopefully now that Sheik is nowhere to be seen, (and I'd bet money it's gonna stay that way) people will learn to use Zelda without the stupid transformation. Give her a new Down B, end of story.

Ganondorf

Although I have not yet beaten Twilight Princess, I hear the final boss battle is quite amazing. Of course, this is all thanks to the villain of the series, Ganondorf. Hopefully, instead of Nintendo making him a C. Falcon clone, they can give him his sword, and make him the only slow swordfighter in Smash. Ganondorf's appearance in the game is unavoidable, but then again, why would anyone try to avoid it?

Young Link (WW Style)

Let me get this straight: WW Link WOULD NOT be a clone of Link. Okay. Anyway, Wind Waker Link is a completely different Link than the OoT or TP Link, and he represents Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, and the highly anticipated Phantom Hourglass. WW Link could use items froms Wind Waker, such as Deku Leaf, the Skull Hammer, and the Iron Boots. I don't know about you, but I certainly think it's better than the Young Link in Melee.

Wolf Link & Midna

Sigh...as much as I hate to say it, Wolf Link & Midna are practically confirmed. Don't get me wrong, I like the character, but I like Skull Kid a lot more, and 6 Zelda representatives? Not happening. Anyway, Midna was the brilliant, personality-filled fairy replacement. Her character develops throughout TP, and she is interesting compared to the fairies. She wouldn't have many moves on her own, so sticking her on the back of Wolf Link would be enough to let her show what she's got.

Legend of Zelda Series Total: 5

Star Fox Series

Fox

CONFIRMED!

The leader of the Star Fox team is back and ready to brawl. With his new look from Star Fox: Assault, and, hopefully, some weaker moves, he's sure to be an awesome and balanced fighter. But, the major question about Fox is: Who will be joining him?

Falco

Yes, I know, most people think he's getting replaced by Krystal, but I am not one of them. Falco was immediately my favorite character in the Star Fox series from the first time I played Star Fox 64. He's Fox's right-hand-man, and although he was absent in some more recent Star Fox adventures, he's still important enough to get a spot in Brawl. And against the arguement that he can only be a clone...one word: LUIGIFY.

Wolf

The anti-hero of the Star Fox series and the leader of the sinister Star Wolf team, Wolf is the only logical choice for a Star Fox villain. He's tried countless times to stop Fox McCloud, and he's been an antagonist in the series since the beginning. Hopefully his spot isn't robbed by other, newer villains, such as General Scales or Panther. Bleh.

Krystal

http://www.mysticfox.com/krystal/krystalChair.jpg

A newer addition to both the Star Fox Series and my lineup, Krystal represents every SF game since Adventures. She'd be the only staff user, and she definitely wouldn't just be another Fox clone. Maybe for a final smash she could use her bird-friend-thing from the beginning of Adventures?

Star Fox Series Total: 4

Metroid Series:

Samus/Zamus

CONFIRMED!
CONFIRMED!

The metroid hunter Samus Aran appears in two different outfits. First, she's fully suited up, Metroid Prime style, and she has a whole arsenal of weapons at her disposal. Second, she removes her power suit and becomes the nimble, agile, shiek-like warrior that is Zero-Suit Samus. Hopefully this will help better represent the Metroid series, along with my next character...

Ridley

Ridley. He's big, bad, and he's appeared in every Metroid game except for two. With a little resizing, and a Bowser-like moveset, Ridley could represent the Metroid series' villains, and add to the number of big characters in Brawl. Even the Japanese want him, and that's pretty friggin' impressive for a Metroid character!

Metroid Series Total: 3

Kirby Series:

Kirby

CONFIRMED!

The lovable pink puff, Kirby, is a veteran of the Smash series, and she's returning for Round 3. Kirby's starred in Canvas Curse & Squeak Squad for the DS, and games like these are the reason Kirby practically has a reserved spot in all Smash games. At least this time around, she'll have some friends from Pop Star joining her.

MetaKnight

CONFIRMED!

One of the more popular villains in the Kirby series, it's not much of a surprise that he's making an appearance in Brawl. The only surprise is that he was confirmed before King DeDeDe. Anyway, with MetaKnight's fast sword attacks and awesome jumping abilities, he just kinda screams out, "HIGH TIER!" to me.

King DeDeDe

The long-time villain and king of DreamLand, DeDeDe is one of the most requested characters for Smash. He's practically confirmed already, seeing as it would be insane if he wasn't in the game. Using similair moves to Kirby, the king would be a heavy hitter with slow running and average jumping abilities.

Kirby Series Total: 3

 

[bivunit94]

Pikachu

CONFIRMED!

The most popular Pokemon ever, this electric rat is once again soiling the Smash series with Pokemon. Of course, being one of the original 12, and growing in popularity, Pikachu isn't going anywhere. Not much to say here.

Jigglypuff

We're stuck with the little thing.

Mewtwo

Mewtwo is the most powerful Pokemon, and the only man-made one. He was cheated out of awesomeness in Melee, and hopefully a new moveset in Brawl will fix that. Even though there are newer Pokemon, such as Deoxys, Mewtwo is important to the storyline, and he's been around since near the beginning. MEWTWO FOR BRAWL!

Lucario

Due to complaints, I've decided that Lucario would be a good choice for a much-needed 4th Pokemon rep. He seems popular, especially with his own movie and everything. He looks like a fighter, too, and Nintendo could easily take a few moves from the game to make a moveset. Also, now that we know Samurai Goroh is out, Lucario will keep the total character count the same.

Pokemon Series Total: 4

DK Series:

Donkey Kong

Star of the Donkey Kong series, this ape has been in Smash since '64, so he's basically confirmed. This, along with the fact that his recent, bongo-based games for the GameCube were hits, you can rest assured that this Kong will be stopping by in Brawl.

Diddy Kong

Diddy is the #1 most wanted character for Brawl. Period. No wonder, seeing as he's starred in Donkey Kong 64, the Donkey Kong Country series, and Diddy Kong Racing. Using his peanut popguns, guitar, and jetpack, Diddy's moveset practically writes itself. As long as Trixie is COMPLETELY out of the picture, I'm a full supporter of Diddy Kong.

Donkey Kong Series Total: 2

F-Zero Series:

Captain Falcon

I'll be honest. I've never played an F-Zero game and I know NOTHING about the series, but I do know that Captain Falcon is awesome. As long as he's back along with "SHOW ME YOUR MOVES!", I'm happy.

F-Zero Series Total: 1

Earthbound/Mother Series:

Ness

The psychic boy with the strangely large head is back, and complete with all his moves from Melee. Hopefully they just increase the power on his moves. He's just TOO weak in Melee. I was going to completely remove Ness from the roster, but seeing as he's one of the original 12, I couldn't.

Lucas

A character from the ever-popular Mother 3, Lucas would be a Ness clone with less power, but more speed and better jumps. Maybe Lucas' inclusion in Brawl could persuade Nintendo to release some Earthbound games in America...so I could actually know who all these characters are.

Earthbound/Mother Series Total: 2

Fire Emblem Series:

Marth

http://www.nintendorks.com/ssbmguide/characters/marth.JPG

Eh. He was in Melee. Maybe without Roy he'll be semi-unique. Plus his stage is in Brawl, so it adds up.

Ike

http://otaku1990.ot.funpic.de/wb/media/retro v/ssbbroster_ike.jpg

He seems to be the most requested FE character, and he seems pretty cool from what I've seen. Also, anything is better than...*shudders* Roy.

Fire Emblem Series Total: 2

Other Nintendo Characters:

Ice Climbers

Brawl seems like it's going to have a lot of retros, and since the IC's are already here, why not? They add the unique partnership to the series, and they also represent a great game by Nintendo. Hopefully Nintendo will make a revival of the series, along with Kid Icarus, Mach Rider, Balloon Fighter...

Mr. Game and Watch

Mr. Game and Watch was the beginning of Nintendo. I, myself, own some of his little games, and GOD they're fun. Getting rid of him would be like if Sega abandoned Sonic. It's just not right. G&W has a unique moveset, and he adds depth to the game. Hopefully, Nintendo will realize this and let Game and Watch stick around.

Wario

CONFIRMED!

Reppin' the amazing and addicting WarioWare series, Wario is sure to pack a punch with a crazy and humorous moveset. Good thing Nintendo included the WarioWare version of Wario, because that's where most of his personality comes from, and the series is a hit. Plus, another Mario representative would have been a little much.

Pit

CONFIRMED!

Pit, the main protagonist of Kid Icarus, is back with a vengeance. His anime appearance and his updated weaponry make me want a Kid Icarus revival so badly, it hurts. Pit should be a good fighter in Smash, considering that he has a lightning-quick bow and arrow, and dual swords. His jumping ability also seems considerably high. Sounds like the kind of character I like to use...

Captain Olimar

I would buy Brawl if this was the only character. He enslaves cute little alien creatures and uses them to do his dirty work. Yup, Captain Olimar. The star of Nintendo's best new series for the GameCube, Pikmin, he would have a moveset involving throwing Pikmin and light punches. Louie and the Prez could be alt. costumes, and maybe if Louie stars in Pikmin 3 again, he could even get his own slot in SSB4...

Mach Rider

Mach Rider...a guy who drives around at mach speed on his machine-gun-equipped-motorcycle, killing everything in his way. Yeah. Sounds pretty badass.

Balloon Fighter

Supposedly, the star of Nintendo's "Balloon Fight" was in the Beta version of Melee. Whether this is true or not, Balloon Fighter could easily be a Kirby-type character with an original moveset. Hopefully the Fighter gets a graphical upgrade, too. *hopes that Balloon Fight makes revival*

Yoshi

SEMI-CONFIRMED!

We've seen his stage. We've heard his music. When...are we going to see...HIM!?!?

Tom Nook

The last of my Nintendo characters, Nook is the mascot of the popular Animal Crossing series. Using fishing rods, shovels, tables, and god knows what else, Nook could easily help Animal Crossing get the representation it deserves, while still putting up a fight against the big dogs like Mario and Link.

Little Mac

Representing Punch-Out, Little Mac is a natural fighter - he is a boxer, after all. Nintendo could just throw together a moveset made of punches, and call it a day. Simple as that.

Other Nintendo Characters Total: 10

Third Parties:

Solid Snake

CONFIRMED!

Star of the Nintendo-originated Metal Gear series, Snake is the first third-party character EVER in a Smash game. He'll use explosives and heavy melee attacks, and he seems to be pretty agile, too. Although the character may be a little "dark" for a kids' game, Metal Gear needed to get the credit it deserved.

Sonic

Uh...Mario vs. Sonic...Duh.

Megaman

Megaman has starred in countless NES, SNES, and GBA games, and he has the potential to have a great moveset. The only similarity he has to Samus would be the charge shot. The rest of his moves would include dashing, the kick bomb, and different attacks from his blaster.

Total 3rd Parties: 3

TOTAL NUMBER OF CHARACTERS: 44

Stage Ideas

Tetris
http://www.ztonic.com/info/images/tetris.jpg

Players battle in the Tetris puzzle board as blocks fall on them, doing slight damage. Players would be able to get knocked up into the top of the board and get KO'd (in most versions of Tetris that I've seen, the top is open. Sorry for the misleading pictures). Blocks will stack up if undisturbed for long periods of time, so while the Brawlers not only have to fight each other, but also must hit the blocks to destroy them and prevent themselves from getting forced off of the top of the screen.

Megaman X - Armored Armadillo Stage
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7404/hadouken3fe.png

There are three platforms on this stage, and players can fall in the small gaps towards the middle or be knocked far off the sides of the stage. Mine cars like the one shown occasionally run through (like the cars on Onett) and damage players. This stage would be a great representation for Megaman and it seems perfect for Brawl.


Item Ideas

Animal Crossing Gryoid

http://animal-crossing.com/images/footer_gyroid_left_news.gif

The Gyroid would be a throwing item. After a player throws it, it would stick to the ground and move its arms around, damaging any players who come into contact with it.

Skull Kid Assist Trophy

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/0/00/265px-Skull_Kid.jpg

Skull Kid, the main villain of the classic Zelda game, Majora's Mask, would make the perfect assist trophy. He'd come in, and bring a huge, Snorlax-like moon crashing down onto the stage. It wouldn't damage the person who activated the Assist trophy, of course. Hopefully if Skull Kid becomes an Assist Trophy, it will increase his chances of being playable in SSB4.

Well, lemme know what you guys think of the roster. Soon I'll be adding an "Honorable Mentions" section to the Characters, for the characters who are worthy, but didn't make the cut. Also, I'll be adding stage & item ideas soon. I'll probably have some of each by tomorrow. Enjoy

Edit: RATE THE STAGES!!!

Edit: Removed Samurai Goroh, now that we know that all he is is an Assist Trophy. =[
Added Lucario, due to the need for a fourth Pokemon rep.
Added my first item. Lemme know what you think.

Edit: Replaced Paper Mario with Geno.
Added Skull Kid Assist Trophy Item.
Added Krystal & Little Mac to my list, increasing the total to 44.

 

[Tsuki]

Zomg no Krystal

 

[LukeFonFabre]

No fire emblem either, so I officially disapprove of this list.

 

[bivunit94]

I don't like Krystal, I feel that Falco and Wolf are both more deserving.

And I realized I didn't have Fire Emblem, it was purely a mistake. I added it in there...Marth and Ike.

 

[Fawriel]

3 Pokemon... unrealistic.
You included WW Link, but berated Young Link and gave bad ideas for his potential moveset.

It's... an okay list, I guess.

By the way, we aren't necessarily stuck with Jigglypuff. Supposedly she's a character Sakurai himself isn't all that fond of. And "people will hate to see her go" is a faulty argument for any character.

 

[LukeFonFabre]

Oh, that's okay then. I almost thought you were deliberately omitting the franchise, but it's fine if it was just a mistake.

It's actually a pretty good list, and quite realistic I feel (though pokemon might have more than 3 reps in the end).

 

[Wiseguy]

Solid list, I have to say. I might change one or to things (replacing Falco or Wolf with Krystal is one of them; cutting Marth, ICs and G&W is another...) but otherwise I have no serious issues with it. Clever writing and nice pictures to boot. Well done. 9/10.

By the way, it has yet to be proven that the FE stage is Marth's. It could be from any FE game.

 

[Johnknight1]

Response to Biv's List

Hmmm....allow me to examine your list.

1.Mario Series: I agree with everything here, except Paper Mario. He could make it I suppose, and he could easily be original, but he's also competing with Bowser Jr. (IMO Bowser Jr. has a 50/50 chance). But I suppose he has a good chance.

2.The Legend of Zelda Series: No complaints here, but Midna could have Wolf Link, or could go solo.

3.Star Fox Series: I agree, that if there were only 3 Star Fox characters who could make the cut, that would be my roster, but I think there will be 4 Star Fox characters. Krystal and Wolf are up there with the most heavily requested characters, in fact I would say both of them are in like the top 10 or so most desired (reasonable) characters for Brawl. Plus Wolf could be a easy to make clone to tell you the truth.

4.Metroid Series: I agree with the 3 characters you put on, and those 3 are all but guarenteed. However, I would at least think about adding the newest Metroid baddy, Dark Samus. DS could easily be a luigified Samus clone, and is wanted pretty much worldwide for Brawl.

5.Kirby Series: Honestly, this is one series the entire SWF can agree on=end of story. This series' reps is not debateable anymore, lol!

6.Pokemon Series: This is where you trip, because Pokemon deserves at least as many reps as tLOZ. It is the #2 selling franchise of all-time, it was once the #1 most searched word on the internet, and it more than outsells tLOZ series 4 to 1. Think about adding the most desired Pokemon newcomer Lucario (who is up there in the 5 most desired or so), and adding Dexoys as well would be nice. And if not Deoxys, Blazekein I guess.

7.Donkey Kong Series: The two characters you ahve aare all but in, but is it time for us to stop abusing the DK series=??? The series almost sold as much as tLOZ, and deserves a 3rd rep=should be Dixie, or K. Rool.

8.F-Zero Series: No complaints there, that is my list exactly. Thnk god you don't have the ever lame Black Shadow=LOSER!

9.Earth Bound/Mother Series: My list exactly, and hopefully you all will join me to demand Mother 3's (and 1's) release worldwide! *evil laugh*

10.Fire Emblem Series: Ike and Marth are all but confirmed, but think about a 3rd spot. It could go to the extremely awsome Roy, Sigurd, Hector, or the Black Knight. Any could make a fine choice.

11.Other Nintendo Franchise Characters: I doubt Balloon Fight and Mach Rider, but they *could* make it. Nook I doubt a lot...he isn't popular, is more hated than liked, and more not wanted than wanted. Cut at least 2 of them or so.

12. 3rd Party Characters: My list exactly, and let us hope Geno counts as a Mario/3rd Party character to replace Paper Mario, even if Paper Mario is awsome. Ya, Geno really is that awsome!

Overall, I give your list a 7.8/10. I think we'll see more characters, as well as more super awsome clones. At the very least I expect 40 (I'm that hard on Sakurai), but realistically I'm looking anywhere from 43-48 is actually possible, but I'm guessing around 46 (maybe 45) to be honest. With 46, you could add 4 characters (Lucario+Deoxys, Krystal, Dixie Kong or K. Rool).

Plus take out Balloon Fight (as cool as he is), Nook, and Mach Rider (sadly), and give those spots to another FE character *cough Roy*, Dark Samus, and someone else even (Geno, or keep Balloon Fight or Mach Rider). Maybe switch Geno (or Bowser Jr.) out wih Paper Mario, and give Balloon Figh or Mach Rider that spot. Good list, and I'm sure your items and stage list will be good as well. Overall pretty good and reasonable list=good going. I'm sure any improvements would be good.

 

[Viroxor]

I think it'd be kind of funny if whenever you hit Falco while he's on your team, he said "Hey Einstein, I'm on your side!", simply as a nod to SF64.

 

[Johnknight1]

I think it'd be kind of funny if whenever you hit Falco while he's on your team, he said "Hey Einstein, I'm on your side!", simply as a nod to SF64.

^^^^ Best idea for a Falco taunt/saying ever! That would be awsome=o ya!

 

[pineappleupsetshark]

This list fails, because it actually reduces the number of Pokemon, which is completely nonsensical and unjustifiable due to Pokemon's status as Nintendo's No. 2 Cash Cow.
Also, Balloon Fighter doesn't appeal to me.

 

[_the_sandman_]

Get rid of characters that essentially the same person but in the different art style, like Paper Mario or WW Link. Everyone says Wolf is needed, but you really don't have to have a Starfox villain for the game.

I approve of the small number of Pokemon and third party characters.

If you want more Starfox characters, try Slippy and/or Krystal.

 

[killbeast301]

Mewtwo

Mewtwo is the most powerful Pokemon, and the only man-made one. He was cheated out of awesomeness in Melee, and hopefully a new moveset in Brawl will fix that. Even though there are newer Pokemon, such as Deoxys, Mewtwo is important to the storyline, and he's been around since near the beginning. MEWTWO FOR BRAWL!

Mewtwo is not THE most powerful, since more recent editions, but still very strong. He is also not the only manmade, as porygon was manmade too. I do think he should return though, as he's just so cool

Edit: ^^^You really want slippy before wolf? just because wolf looks like fox. pitiful. Also, WW link is a DIFFERENT PERSON FROM LINK! Again just cause they have the same name and fashion sense doesn't mean they are the same people. they exist in different times, and saved the world from different gannondorfs. They are different people and would have different movesets. I don't know if Paper mario and Mario are the same, but they would have different movesets too. And in the end, it all depends on how the characters fight, not how they look.

 

[WaffleTruck]

Personally I wish Nintendo will get over themselves and allow a wider variety of characters that would not be in there initially due to realistic weapons. I wouldnt mind seeing another metal gear solid character or even Leon from resident evil. Its pretty much guaranteed to see 95%. if not all the characters from melee in brawl with a hand full of redone movesets. And of course, at least 2 more pokemon, (-_-)' cuz i mean it IS nintendo? And ya, no mach rider or balloon fighter.

 

[Got Blood?]

I'm not 100% sold that either Paper Mario or WW Link will make it.And hopefully G&W and Ice Climbers won't make it back.And Ballon Fighter? What's with that? I'm sure you could've found someone better.A decent list nonetheless.

 

[petre]

Personally I wish Nintendo will get over themselves and allow a wider variety of characters that would not be in there initially due to realistic weapons. I wouldnt mind seeing another metal gear solid character or even Leon from resident evil. Its pretty much guaranteed to see 95%. if not all the characters from melee in brawl with a hand full of redone movesets. And of course, at least 2 more pokemon, (-_-)' cuz i mean it IS nintendo? And ya, no mach rider or balloon fighter.

haha, i think leon having a 95% chance is a little exaggarated (sp?), considering sakurai said no realistic guns will be in brawl, with an exception for explosives. you have to remember, its not nintendo's descicion, its sakurai's. (which you could probably trace back to being nintendo's, but whatever, you get the idea.)

anyway, on the list...i have to agree with the majority on pokemon, you should have another rep there...and possibly another from FE. but, you forgot one of the greatest future brawlers of all...GENO!!!!

 

[Got Blood?]

I think I would die of joy and love if Sakurai if he put Leon in the game. Mario vs Sonic vs Leon vs Snake=Greatest Game Ever!

 

[pineappleupsetshark]

I'm annoyed by people's bizarre feeling that any character has a chance.
Only certain characters have a shot.
Characters from excessively violent games like Resident Evil have no chance, because Brawl is happy friendly place, whether you like it or not. Ridley is about the scariest Brawl can get.
I'm annoyed at all the people who are like "Yeah, let's removed all the Pokemon and replace them with hardcore killing machines!"
F*cking pricks.

Pokemon rocks. Any who refuse to acknowledge that are elitist, and hate all that is cute.

And of course, at least 2 more pokemon, (-_-)' cuz i mean it IS nintendo?

Yeah, it's Nintendo. Tolerate the Pokemon, or go back to your 'hardcore' survivalist horror games.

Suggestion: Add Lucario & Krystal. You have completely ignored two immensely popular characters due to blatant partisanism. Where Wiseguy's list succeeds, yours fails massively.

 

[bluebomber22]

8/10

needs lil mac and more pokemon minus mewtwo

 

[Drascin]

Not to be a hardass or anything, but the fact that your list has actually reduced the number of pokemon kinda hurts your credibility on the rest of choices. I mean, we're talking about Nintendo's main cash cow (seriously, do you know how much those games have sold? It's brutal), and they make good fighters and they have a hell of a lot of fans. Seriously, less than 4 is just unrealistic, and if you had said 5 I'd have believed it too.

I also think we'll see a bit less retro than you think. Balloon fighter, Mach Rider, Pit, AND both IC and GaW returning? Methinks not. The thing with retro characters is that they have to feel special. If there are oodles of them, they lose that charm. I'd cut one or two of these (me, I'd probably go with IC and GaW, to make room for more newcomers, but that's me)

Also, I think your starfox rep is a bit redundant. I mean, as a fan of the series I'd like to think otherwse, but the sad, hard truth is that, if Falco and Wolf are in, there's about a 90% chance they'll be cloned from Fox. Two fox-clones in the same game, even if Falco is Luigified, is a bit too much.

The rest of your other choices I am perfectly fine with. There's some chars I dislike with all my heart there, such as Nook, but me disliking them doesn't eliminate the fact that you're right: they do have a mighty good chance.

So, all in all, I'd give you a 7/10. Good base, but needs to polish the details

 

[Viroxor]

Falco is nothing like Fox. He's more of a lone-wolf type than even Wolf, who is, in fact, a wolf. And O'Donnell is even more different from Fox. It just wouldn't be fair for them to be cloned. I don't have a very big problem with this list. Pokemon are irrelevant to me, replacement or not, since I probably wouldn't use them or their replacements to begin with. Metaknight, Fox, Falco, Wolf (if he's included), and maybe one or two others are probably the few characters I'll use, out of all the ones named. Maybe I'm wrong, but it makes no difference to me at all.

 

[Drascin]

Falco is nothing like Fox. He's more of a lone-wolf type than even Wolf, who is, in fact, a wolf. And O'Donnell is even more different from Fox. It just wouldn't be fair for them to be cloned. I don't have a very big problem with this list. Pokemon are irrelevant to me, replacement or not, since I probably wouldn't use them or their replacements to begin with. Metaknight, Fox, Falco, Wolf (if he's included), and maybe one or two others are probably the few characters I'll use, out of all the ones named. Maybe I'm wrong, but it makes no difference to me at all.

I know who Falco is and the kind of personality he has. I did mention I am a fan of the starfox series, since Starwing for the SNES to be honest, and Falco is probably my favorite character in the series. It might not be fair, but it is undoubted that both of those characters have an extremely high chance of being clones. I just call 'em like I see 'em

And you might not care about pokémon, but the fact of the matter is, there is one heck of a lot of people who do. Including myself. I main Jigglypuff, you know . And I'd have liked to main Mewtwo, if he didn't suck so much.

And I like to care a bit about everyone - me and my friends play a lot of random character rounds to compare adaptability. So I'll play everyone, and so I care for everyne. Yes, including that blackmailing soab Nook, cursed be his soul or (more likely) lack thereof.

 

[bivunit94]

Ok, I knew this was gonna happen about only including 3 Pokemon.
I'm gonna add Lucario soon, along with a few other revisions.

 

[killbeast301]

8/10

needs lil mac and more pokemon minus mewtwo

Mewtwo stays. period. he was the original final boss and must be recognized.