PK_Lunar_π_03
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I need tips I always lose to a rob at tourneys. Please Help
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Best way to beat Rob as Lucas? Need Tips.
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K3H
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If you still wanted to know, here is how you do it.
Reflect everything, or absorb it. Don't shield the gyro every time because it disappears, and then he can use another one immediately. Instead, spot dodge it, and then Fsmash it to make it yours, or reflect it (although this requires really good reaction time). If you Fsmash it on the ground it becomes a stage hazard in a sense, that it now yours. So it's basically if you had spawned the gyro yourself.
Also, R.O.B is one big hit box, which means Lucas can have a field day with him. The slightest opening on R.O.B's part should let you combo him to hell and back. you can easily get ~35% strings on him every time you get in.
Zair and PK Fire are pretty important too, since running up to him and just shielding doesn't always work. And since you have two decent spacing tools, why not use them? R.O.B will DEFINITELY use his.
Dair works well off stage, since R.O.B is so big. It's possible to just keep Dairing him and not letting him get back on stage. He can challenge you with Uair, but you can bait it out and stall with PSI magnet.
It's also pretty easy for Dthrow to Uair to connect since he's so big.
However, it's not a walk in the park: R.O.B is a character who can harass Lucas off stage (assuming you didn't tether) because of his good recovery. So try and tether if you can. He also out ranges Lucas up close, so be aware of that. Although he does get combo'd (?) easily, his weight means you'll have to put in a little extra work to get the kill.
Reflect everything, or absorb it. Don't shield the gyro every time because it disappears, and then he can use another one immediately. Instead, spot dodge it, and then Fsmash it to make it yours, or reflect it (although this requires really good reaction time). If you Fsmash it on the ground it becomes a stage hazard in a sense, that it now yours. So it's basically if you had spawned the gyro yourself.
Also, R.O.B is one big hit box, which means Lucas can have a field day with him. The slightest opening on R.O.B's part should let you combo him to hell and back. you can easily get ~35% strings on him every time you get in.
Zair and PK Fire are pretty important too, since running up to him and just shielding doesn't always work. And since you have two decent spacing tools, why not use them? R.O.B will DEFINITELY use his.
Dair works well off stage, since R.O.B is so big. It's possible to just keep Dairing him and not letting him get back on stage. He can challenge you with Uair, but you can bait it out and stall with PSI magnet.
It's also pretty easy for Dthrow to Uair to connect since he's so big.
However, it's not a walk in the park: R.O.B is a character who can harass Lucas off stage (assuming you didn't tether) because of his good recovery. So try and tether if you can. He also out ranges Lucas up close, so be aware of that. Although he does get combo'd (?) easily, his weight means you'll have to put in a little extra work to get the kill.
beany
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ROB cant necessarily Nair your shield for fun like he can other characters (given the ROB spaces his Nairs), since you have a long grab. If they start rolling back after Nair (expecting a grab) you can punish with dash attack or the incredibly safe SH Zair
From my experiences, ROB gets eaten alive by nair. His laser is a non-issue, since you can absorb it to heal some decent damage. The gyro can pose a problem on-stage because of how good it can control space, but Lucas's recovery is so good that it really shouldn't be a problem off-stage. Use your magnet to quickly shift your momentum when you're above ROB to avoid getting hit by up air. Exploit his recovery. Remember he always has to attack out of his up b first before he can air dodge.
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All of the previous advice mentioned above is definitely how I play this matchup myself, so follow them.
Get practice in catching items from the ground or air, because catching rob's gyro can give you some combo potential. It gets ROB in the air to followup with strings.
Get practice in catching items from the ground or air, because catching rob's gyro can give you some combo potential. It gets ROB in the air to followup with strings.
I suggest you grab the top then camp the living daylights out of him with PK Fire. But be smart about it, mind game on the timing, because Rob's will always use their spinning reflector attack if you are holding the gyro. So you can also wait for that and then punish accordingly.
Unless they are super familiar with the matchup, I also suggest NOT using the magnet until you can predict WHEN Rob will fire a fully charged Laser beam at you, THEN use it. That 27% could win you the match and is a HUGE mental victory over Rob. You know he always tries to use it in the same situations. I find Rob's to be predictable when they use it. (They usually use it in order to trick you into air dodging to put you in a bad spot after)
Unless they are super familiar with the matchup, I also suggest NOT using the magnet until you can predict WHEN Rob will fire a fully charged Laser beam at you, THEN use it. That 27% could win you the match and is a HUGE mental victory over Rob. You know he always tries to use it in the same situations. I find Rob's to be predictable when they use it. (They usually use it in order to trick you into air dodging to put you in a bad spot after)
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