best desynchs?

[LoganW]

what are the best and most functional desynchs that can be realistically applied to matches and how do you do them? thank you in advance

 

[ShootingStars]

what are the best and most functional desynchs that can be realistically applied to matches and how do you do them? thank you in advance

i would love to know this too

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

any thing with ice blocks or down-b is uber legit, but why de-synce when you can down-smash. Also try to only de-synce vs people you are faster than

 

[Fly_Amanita]

I think DD -> blizzard is an excellent desynch and easily one of the strongest ones the ICs have. It's really fast and easy to opt out of, whereas all of the other methods of performing a desynched blizzard I can think of have some sort of irritating drawback, such as requiring doing a passive option first (roll, spot dodge) or having Popo commit to something laggy (solo side-B, solo up-B). I strongly recommend learning it as well as all of the basic ones.

Belay OoS is okay. It is done by having both ICs shield and then quickly inputting up-B. It's pretty situational, but still has some really legitimate applications in shutting down approaches, countering shield pressure, and edeguarding. Most good uses of this desynch involve Nana immediately using blizzard afterwards. The basic reason that is good is that it can be done really quickly OoS and has good range.

The big problem with belay OoS is that Popo usually has to sit through a laggy solo belay animation, although this animation can be canceled in some of the more esoteric applications of this desynch, e.g. doing it such that Popo gets hit by a Falco laser immediately afterwards.

There are a lot of other weird desynchs, but I don't recommend using many of them. I only really use DD -> blizzard, belay OoS, and the roll and spot dodge desynchs.

 

[Foy]

Desynch iceblock is good for creating openings i guess. ._.

 

[Fly_Amanita]

Desynched ice blocks can be good for edgeguarding. They rarely create good openings, though.

edit: Actually, how good they can be used for approaching varies a lot by match-up and stage.

 

[Kyu Puff]

I still need to test it more, but dash backwards -> nana f-smash seems like it has potential.

 

[LoganW]

thanks a lot fly amanita. in oder to dd blizzard i just dash one direction, reverse it and then blizzard immediately?

edit: also thanks everyone else too

 

[ShootingStars]

fly amanita you are so good.

whats belay? thanks
do know how to do down throw chain throw.... i dont know exactly what to do after i down throw, i tried tapping Z.

 

[Fly_Amanita]

thanks a lot fly amanita. in oder to dd blizzard i just dash one direction, reverse it and then blizzard immediately?

edit: also thanks everyone else too

The way I always do it is dash one way, dash the other way, then dash the initial direction again and then hit down-B.

fly amanita you are so good.

whats belay? thanks
do know how to do down throw chain throw.... i dont know exactly what to do after i down throw, i tried tapping Z.

Oh, belay is just up-B. I don't understand exactly what your other concern is. Are you talking about the dthrow CG where you just dthrow with Popo and grab again with Popo, or something else?

 

[LoganW]

The way I always do it is dash one way, dash the other way, then dash the initial direction again and then hit down-B.


Oh, belay is just up-B. I don't understand exactly what your other concern is. Are you talking about the dthrow CG where you just dthrow with Popo and grab again with Popo, or something else?

once again, thanks fly.
also i think he's talking about dthrow w/ popo and then grab w/ nana in which case you just need to time the re-grab

 

[Mr. Mitus]

Well theres also the other down throw CG which is my favorite the d-throw->short hop & d-air nana-> regrab with popo. it's a winner for sure