Yaya
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All there needs now is another 2-D Worms game that is good and my life is complete.
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ThreeX
Smash Lord
Honestly.. wtf, when did Banjo 3 come out? LMAO. I hate you rare.
GreenKirby
Smash Master
Dear Lord, the whining about this game never stops.
Here's an idea, guys: Let's wait till we ACTUALLY play it. (ZOMG NO WAI)
Besides, gaming sites gave nothing but praise for the new game.
Here's an idea, guys: Let's wait till we ACTUALLY play it. (ZOMG NO WAI)
Besides, gaming sites gave nothing but praise for the new game.
Cat Fight
Smash Lord
I hate that this isn't for Wii.
Doesn't feel right playing as Banjo on Xbox. ;"|
Doesn't feel right playing as Banjo on Xbox. ;"|
Its The Jinks
Smash Cadet
OMG!!!!! why is this for the 360... um did xbox buy banjo or something because i thougth it was nintendo and i know the game would of been way better for the wii, halo is for xbox, not banjo 
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Banjo is owned by Rare. Rare is owned by Microsoft.
Its The Jinks
Smash Cadet
o i get it, cuz i always so the rare and stuff in games like donkey kong and i thought there was a nintendo sign afterwards but i guess my memory was a little off
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Its The Jinks--youare halfway correct... that used to be the case but not any more....
My opinions.
First... LOL at Banjo blowing up Mario!!! Thatmade me laugh.
Now on to seriousness...
1) This concerns me almost more than the gameplay--the music. I heard the original music guy (Grant something or other... or something or other Grant...) was quiting. Or resigning or whatever. THAT CAN'T HAPPEN!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owbVtwrO_TQ
^One example of some truly fantastic music.
The music in the first two games is outstanding, and even in the Game Boy title: Grunty's Revenge, it was okay (in my opinion).
I just hope the music remains rockin'. the Nutty Acres seemed ok. And the rock version of the theme song is okay, but I'd (personally) prefer the original. If they throw that theme in the game in anyway accessible easily, I'll be satisfied.
2) Vehicles. This worries me. but first let me get everyhting I've heard about them straightened out.
-Vehicles take up 80% of the game, in one way or another, whether it be collecting them or driving them or... whatever. I dearly, sincerely hope this is an outright lie.
-Vehicles are a part of the game, and are necessary to play, but leave plenty of room for platforming elements from BK that we've all come to know and love. This was stated by one of the game directors or someone involved in one way or another. Anyways, it was stated in a video on youtube (not gonna bother finding a link). However, I just find this hard to believe, seeing as there isn't really anywhere to platform, based on screenshots. I mean... It's all just wide-open spaces :[. Not much room for platforming there (ironically).
-Vehicles replace Banjo and Kazooie's movesets and/or abilities. Now THIS really gets to me. So... are you telling me that... no more flight pads, golden feathers, GRENADE EGGS, or the like?!!! Please... be kidding! these ARE the elements of Banjo-Kazooie, these are what made the game what it is. Take this out and all you have is Mario 64. Except still a bit better. IS THAT WHAT WE REALLY WANT?! oh wait you can drive... Mario Kart. But without as many items. So... no fun stuff. I know I'm overstating right now but half of this last paragraph is a humorous concept to me so I'm stating it. It's humorous because I've just realized that real RARE supporters tend to bash Mario :] whether it be with words or rockets!
But, back to seriousness, why are all of the classic key elements of Banjo-Kazooie being removed? I mean yeah, notes and jiggies remain, cuz if they didn't then... well it wouldn't even be Banjo-Kazooie.... but still!!!
-Hey I have thought of this. Personally--I don't see the greatness of Diddy Kong Racing, but many do. This game, "Nuts 'N' Bolts", is seeming more and more like Diddy Kong Racing. Maybe that will appear to fans of that game. HOWEVER, it's still not Banjo-Kazooie.
-I have a feeling all boss fights are going to revolve around vehicles, to my (and probably many others) dismay. I want to play Banjo-Kazooie, not... some other game, wehre you blast the smitherenes out of opponents. This is Banjo-Kazooie, not Star Fox :/. both were great games, but I don't think they sould be mixed. but hey, they are both made by RARE, so maybe it WILL work out....?!
-The vehicles are stated to be used more to just get around and navigate the IMMENSE areas of the game (however, i don't see from the screenshots/vids many areas wehre classic B&K platforming can realy be applied). But... the problem is there is only 7 areas. The HUb world, Showdown Town, and the six worlds. I'd rather navigate smaller worlds by foot, than coast down Showdown Town's mains street the whole time.
EDIT:Wow, I just thought of something.
-Grunty's HAG 1 shall be avenged! With the vehicle making and all... can anyone say a HAG sequel is plausible? I'M EXCITED FOR THIS :]
3) Storyline
-This also worries me. :/ Some new guy is, supposedly, the creator of Banjo and Kazooie's games, and is bored of it, so he is finishing it by making Banjo and Grunty fight one lst time (this is how I take it). Well what the heck! It sounds like an excuse to bring in the vehicles! The new guy (symbolizing developers) is tired of Banjo-Kazooie (developers tired of making the same type of game), so he decides to do something new, for his entertainment (the developers)! Now this would be complete bullcrap but think of it--the new guy's character is a video game designer!!! Yeesh (halfway non-serious, this paragraph was)!
4) Graphics
-at first I was very disapointed, but I've already gotten over that. Not that big of a deal, but really--Grunty looks a bit awful (not her costume, but just the way her head looks.. it just looks.. idk different, like something out of a Tim Burton animated movie or somehting.. and I'm perfectly fine with his movies)... And really, is that a FLAMING, red music note I saw? Is that.. necessary? I don't mind that much but don't make them all flame now for no special reason :/
5)Overall
-i'm a bit impressed, but mostly worried. I don't want to see Banjo and Kazooie JUST driving around the whole time. And i don't want to be completing events to collect Jiggies in order to progress through the game.
-I hope the plot turns out okay, even though it bothers me the characters are aware (by waht it seems) they are in a video game.. That just never really suited me :/ And I tend to ignore the little off-hand remarks they make in the other games.. I mean a side-joke about the game is okay, but... come on a whole plot based on it???
-The trashcan in Banjo-Land filled with copies of Grabbed by the Ghoulies was funny. Nintendo fans need to lighten up about Mario getting blown up. RARE is making fun of a creation of their own as well! And no one cared when Conker cut up the Nintendo symbol. and to even it up, he hacked up Microsoft's as well ok?
-This game still has a lot of potential. At least, it seemingly does, since we don't know much about the game. All i can say is that I hope it's not vehicle-based. If not, the vehicles will make a very neat addition to the game, and it'll still be okay if the vehicles are mianly the focus (okay for a complete let-down and abandonment of an awesome franchise, that is)...
-GO BANJO-KAZOOIE!
EDIT: A bunch of old tracks will be in Banjo-Land, which is a huge relief, especially since they may just be loosing/have lost the guy whose done such a great job with it all.
[SIZE="2]Some great music from B & K's past:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcWowxaKw7g-Mr. Patch (BT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jH2n09OMbg-Final Battle with Gruntilda Winkybunion (BK)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqJ7thV-qLg-HAG 1 (BT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2b_OsR1bHY-Mad Monster Mansio (BK) ---UBER AWESOME :]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7jJH1Dpiw8-BubbleGloop Swamp (BK)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUgja4wkAO8-Freezeezy Park (BK)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfgZOTuu6J0-Rusty Bucket Bay (BK)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVYWpZANlqI-Clanker's Cavern (BK)
Sheesh, how about some more BT toons, eh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkN3zZ-WEYo-Cloud Cuckoo Land (BT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGPncRJWcJc-Jolly Roger's Lagoon (BT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msgO1PcCD1M-Jinjo Village (BT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shrzrH3F0z0-Grunty's Industries (BT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9nzSFigA7w-Mingy Jongo's Theme (AWEEESOME), (BT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyDWxw7SeCY-Klungo's Theme. I think this has a bit more of a BK feel to it... or is that just me? (BT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kfeRAPTyAo-Lord Woo Fak Fak :] (BT)
And the classics; BEST songs EVER!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU3htIQe6eQ-Spiral Mountain (BK)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzIZ4zezRTQ-Theme :D (BK)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QpT78kZfkw-Spiral Mountian (Gloomy) (BT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7HS22xwxWs-Theme Remix (BT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTztR_y9iHc-Grunty's Lair[/SIZE]
My opinions.
First... LOL at Banjo blowing up Mario!!! Thatmade me laugh.
Now on to seriousness...
1) This concerns me almost more than the gameplay--the music. I heard the original music guy (Grant something or other... or something or other Grant...) was quiting. Or resigning or whatever. THAT CAN'T HAPPEN!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owbVtwrO_TQ
^One example of some truly fantastic music.
The music in the first two games is outstanding, and even in the Game Boy title: Grunty's Revenge, it was okay (in my opinion).
I just hope the music remains rockin'. the Nutty Acres seemed ok. And the rock version of the theme song is okay, but I'd (personally) prefer the original. If they throw that theme in the game in anyway accessible easily, I'll be satisfied.
2) Vehicles. This worries me. but first let me get everyhting I've heard about them straightened out.
-Vehicles take up 80% of the game, in one way or another, whether it be collecting them or driving them or... whatever. I dearly, sincerely hope this is an outright lie.
-Vehicles are a part of the game, and are necessary to play, but leave plenty of room for platforming elements from BK that we've all come to know and love. This was stated by one of the game directors or someone involved in one way or another. Anyways, it was stated in a video on youtube (not gonna bother finding a link). However, I just find this hard to believe, seeing as there isn't really anywhere to platform, based on screenshots. I mean... It's all just wide-open spaces :[. Not much room for platforming there (ironically).
-Vehicles replace Banjo and Kazooie's movesets and/or abilities. Now THIS really gets to me. So... are you telling me that... no more flight pads, golden feathers, GRENADE EGGS, or the like?!!! Please... be kidding! these ARE the elements of Banjo-Kazooie, these are what made the game what it is. Take this out and all you have is Mario 64. Except still a bit better. IS THAT WHAT WE REALLY WANT?! oh wait you can drive... Mario Kart. But without as many items. So... no fun stuff. I know I'm overstating right now but half of this last paragraph is a humorous concept to me so I'm stating it. It's humorous because I've just realized that real RARE supporters tend to bash Mario :] whether it be with words or rockets!
But, back to seriousness, why are all of the classic key elements of Banjo-Kazooie being removed? I mean yeah, notes and jiggies remain, cuz if they didn't then... well it wouldn't even be Banjo-Kazooie.... but still!!!
-Hey I have thought of this. Personally--I don't see the greatness of Diddy Kong Racing, but many do. This game, "Nuts 'N' Bolts", is seeming more and more like Diddy Kong Racing. Maybe that will appear to fans of that game. HOWEVER, it's still not Banjo-Kazooie.
-I have a feeling all boss fights are going to revolve around vehicles, to my (and probably many others) dismay. I want to play Banjo-Kazooie, not... some other game, wehre you blast the smitherenes out of opponents. This is Banjo-Kazooie, not Star Fox :/. both were great games, but I don't think they sould be mixed. but hey, they are both made by RARE, so maybe it WILL work out....?!
-The vehicles are stated to be used more to just get around and navigate the IMMENSE areas of the game (however, i don't see from the screenshots/vids many areas wehre classic B&K platforming can realy be applied). But... the problem is there is only 7 areas. The HUb world, Showdown Town, and the six worlds. I'd rather navigate smaller worlds by foot, than coast down Showdown Town's mains street the whole time.
EDIT:Wow, I just thought of something.
-Grunty's HAG 1 shall be avenged! With the vehicle making and all... can anyone say a HAG sequel is plausible? I'M EXCITED FOR THIS :]
3) Storyline
-This also worries me. :/ Some new guy is, supposedly, the creator of Banjo and Kazooie's games, and is bored of it, so he is finishing it by making Banjo and Grunty fight one lst time (this is how I take it). Well what the heck! It sounds like an excuse to bring in the vehicles! The new guy (symbolizing developers) is tired of Banjo-Kazooie (developers tired of making the same type of game), so he decides to do something new, for his entertainment (the developers)! Now this would be complete bullcrap but think of it--the new guy's character is a video game designer!!! Yeesh (halfway non-serious, this paragraph was)!
4) Graphics
-at first I was very disapointed, but I've already gotten over that. Not that big of a deal, but really--Grunty looks a bit awful (not her costume, but just the way her head looks.. it just looks.. idk different, like something out of a Tim Burton animated movie or somehting.. and I'm perfectly fine with his movies)... And really, is that a FLAMING, red music note I saw? Is that.. necessary? I don't mind that much but don't make them all flame now for no special reason :/
5)Overall
-i'm a bit impressed, but mostly worried. I don't want to see Banjo and Kazooie JUST driving around the whole time. And i don't want to be completing events to collect Jiggies in order to progress through the game.
-I hope the plot turns out okay, even though it bothers me the characters are aware (by waht it seems) they are in a video game.. That just never really suited me :/ And I tend to ignore the little off-hand remarks they make in the other games.. I mean a side-joke about the game is okay, but... come on a whole plot based on it???
-The trashcan in Banjo-Land filled with copies of Grabbed by the Ghoulies was funny. Nintendo fans need to lighten up about Mario getting blown up. RARE is making fun of a creation of their own as well! And no one cared when Conker cut up the Nintendo symbol. and to even it up, he hacked up Microsoft's as well ok?
-This game still has a lot of potential. At least, it seemingly does, since we don't know much about the game. All i can say is that I hope it's not vehicle-based. If not, the vehicles will make a very neat addition to the game, and it'll still be okay if the vehicles are mianly the focus (okay for a complete let-down and abandonment of an awesome franchise, that is)...
-GO BANJO-KAZOOIE!
EDIT: A bunch of old tracks will be in Banjo-Land, which is a huge relief, especially since they may just be loosing/have lost the guy whose done such a great job with it all.
[SIZE="2]Some great music from B & K's past:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcWowxaKw7g-Mr. Patch (BT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jH2n09OMbg-Final Battle with Gruntilda Winkybunion (BK)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqJ7thV-qLg-HAG 1 (BT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2b_OsR1bHY-Mad Monster Mansio (BK) ---UBER AWESOME :]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7jJH1Dpiw8-BubbleGloop Swamp (BK)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUgja4wkAO8-Freezeezy Park (BK)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfgZOTuu6J0-Rusty Bucket Bay (BK)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVYWpZANlqI-Clanker's Cavern (BK)
Sheesh, how about some more BT toons, eh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkN3zZ-WEYo-Cloud Cuckoo Land (BT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGPncRJWcJc-Jolly Roger's Lagoon (BT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msgO1PcCD1M-Jinjo Village (BT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shrzrH3F0z0-Grunty's Industries (BT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9nzSFigA7w-Mingy Jongo's Theme (AWEEESOME), (BT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyDWxw7SeCY-Klungo's Theme. I think this has a bit more of a BK feel to it... or is that just me? (BT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kfeRAPTyAo-Lord Woo Fak Fak :] (BT)
And the classics; BEST songs EVER!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU3htIQe6eQ-Spiral Mountain (BK)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzIZ4zezRTQ-Theme :D (BK)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QpT78kZfkw-Spiral Mountian (Gloomy) (BT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7HS22xwxWs-Theme Remix (BT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTztR_y9iHc-Grunty's Lair[/SIZE]
LordoftheMorning
Smash Champion
Omg I thought Banjo was strictly nintendo. ****. I always though he should be in SSBB instead of the Ice Climbers or GaW.
LUVTOY77-ROGUE WIREFRAME
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Banjo and Kazooie woulda' been great additions to the Smash series... =...[
GreenKirby
Smash Master
No they weren't strictly Nintendo. The reason Banjo and Conker but Donkey Kong are strictly Rare is because Rare themselves made Banjo and Conker. Nintendo made DK games long before DKC.
Mr. Rogu
Smash Ace
im a pretty big fan of banjo kazooie, loved the n64 games but this game doesnt look as good. what ive heard, what you do in this game is drive around in a car and build things. doesnt seem the the n64 banjo kazooie to me.
GreenKirby
Smash Master
For the last f***ing time, just because it's not like the N64 games doesn't mean it's going to be bad! It still has classic characters, its charm, and even a working STOP N SWOP!
And when was it ever written that platforming games must require the main character to travel on foot for most the game?
And when was it ever written that platforming games must require the main character to travel on foot for most the game?
motherfan
Smash Journeyman
Cool news! If you pre order nuts&bolts then you can download the original N64 game for free when it hits XBLA!
derek.haines
Smash Ace
Which makes it all the more funny that Rare continues to develop for the Nintendo DS.
Hey hey, why not use a competitor's handheld to make money? Microsoft continually says they aren't interested in the handheld market, and if Nintendo is letting them make DS games through the name Rare on the handheld, great, they don't have to waste money of their own creating a handheld.
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Grant, the one who did the music for the previous games, DID do the music for N&B. As far as I understand it, he resigned AFTER he had finished the music for N&B.
I'm playing through Tooie again, and I'm uber excited for this game. Now that it's on the 360, Rare will be completely uninhibited in their crude jokes
(Jolly and his bar in Tooie.... wow, amazing... the menu.....)
And, I mean, the sheer dedication and detail they've put into the vehicle creation, makes it worthwhile anyway.
The only thing I'll miss is the eggs, and gaining new abilities like that, and who knows, maybe they'll shock us by having that in there somewhere.
I'm playing through Tooie again, and I'm uber excited for this game. Now that it's on the 360, Rare will be completely uninhibited in their crude jokes
(Jolly and his bar in Tooie.... wow, amazing... the menu.....)
And, I mean, the sheer dedication and detail they've put into the vehicle creation, makes it worthwhile anyway.
The only thing I'll miss is the eggs, and gaining new abilities like that, and who knows, maybe they'll shock us by having that in there somewhere.
We'll see about the jokes. After all, Conker Live & Reloaded, which was supposed to be the uncut version of Conker's Bad Fur Day, was further censored on the Xbox than the N64.
LUVTOY77-ROGUE WIREFRAME
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The jokes were hidden in the Banjo-Kazooie games, hence why they're E for everyone... if the jokes were intended to be caught on by EVERYONE, then it'd be M....
@ GreenKirby: Changing the gameplay by throwing in vehicles to replace walking... is, well, changing the gameplay. Usually people expect similar gameplay whenthey purchase a sequel. sequel of games should, in my opinion, be similar in gameplay, but enhanced in each sequel. The vehicles are an enhancement, yes, but they change the way we play banjo-kazooie. I'm sure many people agree when i say that we'd rather explore a level by foot, finding nooks and crannies, and enjoy the ability to use moves taught to us by a friendly (or nonfriendly, militant) mole. Not upgrades we find scattered thruoh the level to put on a machine. Yea that's awesome, but why do they need to replace everything with a vehicle? I think that if a large part of the game is still Banjo-Kazooie/Tooie, it'll be great, and the vehicles will be awesome. If it's mostly vehicle, it might still be great, but won't be the same, and everyone misses Banjo-Kazooie for it's style of play. If you change the style of play, you aren't exactly bringing back Banjo..... you are but...your not.
Also... seeing a bear and bird execute moves is a lot cooler than seeing a vehicles bounce up with a small spring and perform other things that make them look rediculous... that's my opinion anyways...
And I hope to God Grant made the music! Haha.....
and someone explain the stop n swap! (the working one)
@ GreenKirby: Changing the gameplay by throwing in vehicles to replace walking... is, well, changing the gameplay. Usually people expect similar gameplay whenthey purchase a sequel. sequel of games should, in my opinion, be similar in gameplay, but enhanced in each sequel. The vehicles are an enhancement, yes, but they change the way we play banjo-kazooie. I'm sure many people agree when i say that we'd rather explore a level by foot, finding nooks and crannies, and enjoy the ability to use moves taught to us by a friendly (or nonfriendly, militant) mole. Not upgrades we find scattered thruoh the level to put on a machine. Yea that's awesome, but why do they need to replace everything with a vehicle? I think that if a large part of the game is still Banjo-Kazooie/Tooie, it'll be great, and the vehicles will be awesome. If it's mostly vehicle, it might still be great, but won't be the same, and everyone misses Banjo-Kazooie for it's style of play. If you change the style of play, you aren't exactly bringing back Banjo..... you are but...your not.
Also... seeing a bear and bird execute moves is a lot cooler than seeing a vehicles bounce up with a small spring and perform other things that make them look rediculous... that's my opinion anyways...
And I hope to God Grant made the music! Haha.....
and someone explain the stop n swap! (the working one)