ATTN Falco MAINS: PLEASE HELP ME IN MY RESEARCH PROJECT

[Vayseth]

Hello everyone! I am currently doing a research project on Brawl for members of the smash lab. They have a couple ideas going around in there and I wanted to test a few of them out for myself. Therefore if you guys would not mind, I would appreciate it if you would help me out.

I would like you, since you know your characters better than I do (probably), to tell me in quick bullet points what the most annoying things for you to play against. I am talking about aspects of match ups that change how the match up plays out. Examples of this would be King Dedede’s standing infinite on Bowser, DK, Mario, Luigi, Samus and himself or grab releases like Marth on Ness/Lucas or Wario’s grab release shenanigans. Basically, anything match up specific where one character has a great advantage over the other character simply because of that move/moves. There’s plenty out there but I want to make sure I have them all! Please list them for me!

Thank you!

Problems:
-Falco's chaingrab
-Zamus stun lock
-Sheik ftilt lock

 

[King Funk]

Meta Knight's Tornado
Game and Watch's Bucket

They are not too annoying if you carefully avoid them...

 

[Vayseth]

Falco can nearly almost 0 to death another Falco with his d-throw chaingrab right?

 

[King Funk]

Falco can nearly almost 0 to death another Falco with his d-throw chaingrab right?

Yeah, unless that other Falco uses SK92's brand new "spike teching".

EDIT---> here's a link of that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFgf2EKYB4g

 

[Tofu_Rodeo]

The Ice Climber's 0-death grab to spike makes me switch from falco.

I heard something about a pikachu 80% chaingrab on falco (with the downthrow?)
That would be grody if it is real.

 

[Teran]

I heard something about a pikachu 80% chaingrab on falco (with the downthrow?)
That would be grody if it is real.

That's on Fox not Falco.

 

[~Pink Fresh~]

the dthrow cg is still pretty bad.
other things i don't really like.
ftilt lock (sheik)
stun lock (ZSS)
G&W bucket.

 

[Mith_]

low priority on some moves.
easily gimped recovery.

 

[Roderick]

Mario's cape!
Kirby's Inhale... Why wasn't this mentioned before

 

[pure_awesome]

Planking.

By far. It takes a fairly even match-up and makes it next to impossible for us to do anything.

 

[Roderick]

Maybe a stupid question lol, but what is planking? Resetting invincibility or something right?

 

[gunterrsmash01]

Marths 0-death on Falco.
Marths 0-30 on falco.
ICs chaingrabs on falco.

 

[Vayseth]

WHat are the specifics on the Marth combos there?

 

[King Funk]

Marths 0-death on Falco.
Marths 0-30 on falco.
ICs chaingrabs on falco.

Except for the second one, I've never seen either of these moves, so if you have a video link, please put it.

 

[Roderick]

Actually, the bucket is not such a big problem IMO, if he absorbs the lasers it is not a strong attack, and if it's full and he's out of range he can't absorb them anymore. Basically, just laser him and if he's got his bucket full, get out of range and laser him more

 

[kpeezy]

Except for the second one, I've never seen either of these moves, so if you have a video link, please put it.

Marth's 0-death is: Fthrow > Fthrow > Dair spike. After that, Marth ledge hogs and you die. It's unavoidable. No video sorry.

Edit: Obviously, the first grab has to be done at a certain spot so that it's spaced properly. Also has to be at low percentage (perhaps from 0 only, I'm not sure).

 

[Roderick]

Yes, i hate that one. Even a cpu did that to me:O Unbelievable...

 

[Denzi]

Marths 0-death on Falco.
Marths 0-30 on falco.
ICs chaingrabs on falco.

These.

Falco's Dthrow CG and Pika's Fthrow CG don't really bother me cause I can just CG them back

Sheik Ftilt lock sucks too.