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Smash Lord
I feel like this issue needs to be brought up and discussed by everyone that holds, attends, or would like to have some say in the matter. It's as simple is this I along with many others feel like there needs to be a general consensus, on the Ice Climbers Chain Grab. It's arguably one of the most broken things in the game, (that isn't Meta Knight), and in the use of good players can lead to 1 Grab = 1 Stock loss.
I know that it's a very touching issue in the still developing Brawl community, and it's general rule set, but I feel like Atlantic North is on the forefront of the Brawl scene, and that if anything could be done about it, it could, and I personally think, should be started here.
There are many people who have problems with the chain grab, and to be perfectly honestly it truly isn't fair. The general reply I hear to not get chained, is “don't get grabbed.” That is a true method that I guess you would say works, but let's be perfectly honest with each other even with the Ice Climbers pitiful grab reach, it isn't at all easy to not get grabbed and win, in a whole , match. Also there are some characters who can't really space them selves good enough/are just unable to, not get grabbed and it's a hindering factor for many players. I know of several who would like to join the community, but will not go to a tourney because of this factor alone. Think about this for a minute they are less afraid of Meta Knight, and possibly being planked by him or such, than being chain grabbed By IC’s, I really find that sad.
I know that the Ice Climbers aren’t really tourney viable without their chain grabs, so I won't exactly say ban it(I would much rather for the chain grab to be banned, but I know this will cause more dislike for this topic, and these rules) but I personally think that limiting the chain grab is in everyone's best interest.
I have not really come up to what the limit should be, but I think it should be something like this:
3 grabs in one direction, the third grab must either be a release, a throw, or a smash attack.
The 3rd grab over all, should either be a release, throw, or smash attack.
That means 2 forward one back, 2 Backward and one forward, or 3 back, and forth alternating grabs.
Also this applies to the grab to spike throw.
You can do three grab spikes, after the third spike, you can attack with anything you want, but that attack cannot lead into a grab. For example you cannot grab into ice black to keep them down, and then re - grab. That would count as a 4th grab, and depending on the T.O. they may punish if they see fit. If I got report of it personally that person would lose that match in question, and be free to go on to the next math, if that was not the deciding match.
Discuss please :D
(I'd prefer no flaming but I'm open to it, as well as suggestions mind you what I came up with is NOT final.)
I know that it's a very touching issue in the still developing Brawl community, and it's general rule set, but I feel like Atlantic North is on the forefront of the Brawl scene, and that if anything could be done about it, it could, and I personally think, should be started here.
There are many people who have problems with the chain grab, and to be perfectly honestly it truly isn't fair. The general reply I hear to not get chained, is “don't get grabbed.” That is a true method that I guess you would say works, but let's be perfectly honest with each other even with the Ice Climbers pitiful grab reach, it isn't at all easy to not get grabbed and win, in a whole , match. Also there are some characters who can't really space them selves good enough/are just unable to, not get grabbed and it's a hindering factor for many players. I know of several who would like to join the community, but will not go to a tourney because of this factor alone. Think about this for a minute they are less afraid of Meta Knight, and possibly being planked by him or such, than being chain grabbed By IC’s, I really find that sad.
I know that the Ice Climbers aren’t really tourney viable without their chain grabs, so I won't exactly say ban it(I would much rather for the chain grab to be banned, but I know this will cause more dislike for this topic, and these rules) but I personally think that limiting the chain grab is in everyone's best interest.
I have not really come up to what the limit should be, but I think it should be something like this:
3 grabs in one direction, the third grab must either be a release, a throw, or a smash attack.
The 3rd grab over all, should either be a release, throw, or smash attack.
That means 2 forward one back, 2 Backward and one forward, or 3 back, and forth alternating grabs.
Also this applies to the grab to spike throw.
You can do three grab spikes, after the third spike, you can attack with anything you want, but that attack cannot lead into a grab. For example you cannot grab into ice black to keep them down, and then re - grab. That would count as a 4th grab, and depending on the T.O. they may punish if they see fit. If I got report of it personally that person would lose that match in question, and be free to go on to the next math, if that was not the deciding match.
Discuss please :D
(I'd prefer no flaming but I'm open to it, as well as suggestions mind you what I came up with is NOT final.)
