Ok, now I can do the looping pretty well, and it definatly confuses alot of the people I play because Odly enough, none of em have seen a pit player do this before, I need a bit of work with the arrow rains, but its helped me out occasionally(last night was a good example, I was in a team match, and my partner was about to get warlock punched by ganondorf, I got all 4 arrows I shot into the air to hit him, and my partner was able to KO him after that because he couldn't dodge the arrows) but it still needs some work. Anyone got any tips for the arrow rain?