Are f-smashes overpowered this patch?

[ARGHETH]

Totally horribly designed character and kind of unbalances the character if we are being honest.

We are talking about Marth's Fsmash here, right? Because I really don't see it in that case.

 

[MARTH_IS_BAE]

We are talking about Marth's Fsmash here, right? Because I really don't see it in that case.

Okay well Marth isn't poorly designed, I don't actually mean that.
But played at the utmost competitive level where Marth is just landing tipper fsmashes everywhere and killing people at 40%, it shows a degree of unbalance. It isn't fair when people like Sheik hit Marth a million times and then he just throws fsmash and they die.
I say this from experience, and the fact that I feel sorry for people I play against (not to sound arrogant--it's not me, it's just a poorly designed move with huge reward).
Like yeah, he loses at low level play, but high level play...
I could see a nerf to this move if I were being totally honest.

 

[Ravine]

Marty's fsmash is way way way too strong in this game. Totally horribly designed character and kind of unbalances the character if we are being honest.

I never played Marth offline. Online I seem to get hit by them a lot LOL!

Is it THAT bad? It just seems tricky, but avoidable, really.

 

[ARGHETH]

it's just a poorly designed move

It's a move that can't kill unless it's tippered, and that tipper is a really small part of the sword. You can't really combo into it, either, with the closest thing being jab --> fsmash.

Like yeah, he loses at low level play, but high level play...

LOL Marth doesn't exist at high levels of play. What are you talking about? And since they definitely aren't getting especially unbalanced results, I don't see this move as being broken. It's a f10 move doing 18%, yes, but are we calling Thoron broken because it does 18% and is a huge projectile? No.

 

[MARTH_IS_BAE]

It's a move that can't kill unless it's tippered, and that tipper is a really small part of the sword. You can't really combo into it, either, with the closest thing being jab --> fsmash.

LOL Marth doesn't exist at high levels of play. What are you talking about? And since they definitely aren't getting especially unbalanced results, I don't see this move as being broken. It's a f10 move doing 18%, yes, but are we calling Thoron broken because it does 18% and is a huge projectile? No.

A good Marth lands tipper fsmashes like all the time. It's like Texas Tipper Fsmash Massacre. It's a f10 move that kills at 40%, as opposed to Thoron, a chargeable move that kills at 150% lawl. If he isn't competitive it's because he's underrepresented or the people who play as him suck.

 

[Ravio_Yo]

there are like 7 F-Smashes that aren't pretty much useless without great reads

 

[1337Kai]

I'm an Ike player, and his f smash is one the most unsafe f smashes our there. Even with the huge amount of shield stun it has, it is far from being safe on block. I WISH Ike's f smash was safe to use. #MakeIke'sFSmashFrame1

 

[Zage]

How is this topic still up.

 

[Omegascizor456]

I voted yes, but i dont think overpowered is the right word... f smashes can break shields with relative ease and thats what cause me to think this way. Obviously characters like little mac and ryu can break sheilds with their insane shield stun... but i think its a little crazy :/

 

[Crimson23]

Nope. Not at all. In this game, spamming F-smashes, or anything for that matter, will get you rekt. Like, 'my little brother going up against ZeRo and Nairo in a 2v1 match against him' rekt. Even though they're safer on shield, they're still super punishable.

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

I voted yes, but i dont think overpowered is the right word... f smashes can break shields with relative ease and thats what cause me to think this way. Obviously characters like little mac and ryu can break sheilds with their insane shield stun... but i think its a little crazy :/

I think shield-breaks are great. They only break "with relative ease" relative to past Smash games. Shield-breaks are virtually non-existent in past titles, but now, you have to actually use your shield with care rather than sit in safety for a long time.

 

[Omegascizor456]

I think shield-breaks are great. They only break "with relative ease" relative to past Smash games. Shield-breaks are virtually non-existent in past titles, but now, you have to actually use your shield with care rather than sit in safety for a long time.

but i dont think you can call them "great" when sheild breaker gets nerfed...

 

[Quarium]

Short answer:

No

Long answer:

I don't actually need to explain anything, it's just common sense.

No

...That was shorter than expected