anyone else having problems?

[lui3k]

anyone else finding it hard to learn the match up w the new additions? (cloud, corrin, bayonetta)
ive punched several holes in walls and i am forced to add pikachu to my lucas to cover some of these match ups...

 

[BornABrawler]

I personally still have problems with fighting Cloud. Now that doesn't mean I get Finishing Touched every game, but I find it hard to face him head on when he hits like a truck and has good spacing moves, especially his aerials. Corrin and Bayonetta are a bit justified to still have difficulty fighting against because they are still pretty new. If you want my honest opinion, playing as said character for a little while can give you an idea of how to combat a matchup. Whenever I have trouble against a character I will pick said character and practice against Lvl 8's until I get idea of what they do and how they play. This is just my method of dealing with new/hard matchups, but hey, it could work for someone else too.

*Edit* - Also just a heads up. Please post questions about matchups and such in the matchup thread itself. (Even though it's mostly dead) This applies for anything else that already has a dedicated thread. You can find it here: http://smashboards.com/threads/phrygias-notebook-lucas-matchup-discussion.398030/

 

[lui3k]

I personally still have problems with fighting Cloud. Now that doesn't mean I get Finishing Touched every game, but I find it hard to face him head on when he hits like a truck and has good spacing moves, especially his aerials. Corrin and Bayonetta are a bit justified to still have difficulty fighting against because they are still pretty new. If you want my honest opinion, playing as said character for a little while can give you an idea of how to combat a matchup. Whenever I have trouble against a character I will pick said character and practice against Lvl 8's until I get idea of what they do and how they play. This is just my method of dealing with new/hard matchups, but hey, it could work for someone else too.

*Edit* - Also just a heads up. Please post questions about matchups and such in the matchup thread itself. (Even though it's mostly dead) This applies for anything else that already has a dedicated thread. You can find it here: http://smashboards.com/threads/phrygias-notebook-lucas-matchup-discussion.398030/

wow thank you for those words its very appreciated while the pk boys will always have a place in my heart i need to pick up a top teir prob cloud as per your advice its no fun loosing to bayo and corrin and cloud all the time

 

[that_rock]

wow thank you for those words its very appreciated while the pk boys will always have a place in my heart i need to pick up a top teir prob cloud as per your advice its no fun loosing to bayo and corrin and cloud all the time

http://smashboards.com/threads/phrygias-notebook-lucas-matchup-discussion.398030/page-7

I gave my opinions on the matchups here.

Also, he didn't mean you pick up a top tier. He suggested you to play the character you have trouble with to understand how they play.

IMO if you want to win, go pick up a top tier. If you want to stay loyal, you do you. It's why I play Ness in melee. It's why I play Ness and Lucas in brawl. But I don't blaspheme people who play top tiers. Do what you want