any tips for my marth?

[edgeswipe21]

I have been using marth for about an year and would like some help, so please critique my video and help the fox if u can =): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEzfj_-MUSc

ps: the u-smash at the begining was suppose to be an u-tilt.

 

[DuKe™]

you l cancel very slow, and do almost nothing after it, your shield shouldnt always pop up, a saw some pointless rolling......and you shouldve hit fox a couple of times when your chaingrabbing so you cou could set up for up tit/f smash, do u jump cancel? that fox did not know how to kill. lol that was funny when whoever came said youve been playing since all day and afternoon take a shower or eat

 

[edgeswipe21]

u understood that comment?! and something might be unclear, in that match i was more focused on mind games and spacing rather then tech skills so i was rolling to space.

 

[Sephiroth M]

Fox and falco are near same weight so... i noticed that shffl with dair works since they fall fast.

Forgive me if it doesnt work -.-

 

[brawlpro]

hey! try to help da fox out, which i played as. sayin dat i can't kill isnt all that helpful. and i mastered waveshinin the night after the match so i'm a lot better now. PEACE!!!

 

[jobrown4]

yeah i would roll less but i understand working on the mind games... ummmm i wouldn't up smash so much but thats just me, and i would def hit him a few times while grabed and like other people said, the f tlit works wonders but you did use it in places i didn't expect...

 

[Sephiroth M]

why not do the f throw wavedash f smash?

 

[brawlpro]

Thanks, joebrown4 and sephiroth m, those kinda helped me out. peace

 

[V1Hand]

Like others have said, I would stop rolling as much.

 

[brawlpro]

Like others have said, I would stop rolling as much.

Alright, when i make my next vid, i wouldn't roll as much unless i am uncomfortable, then i'll roll to play a little mindgame! thanks

 

[Roman.]

Work on using the d-tilt after your fairs don't tip. I saw you trying to grab most of the time. Also, d-tilt works wonders for edgeguarding sweetspots.

 

[brawlpro]

Who?

Work on using the d-tilt after your fairs don't tip. I saw you trying to grab most of the time. Also, d-tilt works wonders for edgeguarding sweetspots.

r u givin tips 2 da ark? just wonderin'. well if u r then i'll go n' get more accurate with grabs, and get used 2 jc grabs. thanks 4 tellin me my weakpoints(if u were talkin bout fox dat is)!

 

[brawlpro]

I hope ppl were talkin bout a fox when i replied, if not, oh well, whatever they said helped me out anyway!

 

[DuKe™]

rolling is a horrible way to space in my opinion nothing against it though rolling ftw, anyway that fox i have to say was very unexperienced, so i mean whatever mindgames you were trying wouldnt work on better players, proabably wouldnt work, the best way to beat a fox like that is to chaingrab, punish them with every grab make sure you get atleast 30-40 damage from your first grab, after that then i guess you factor in trying to space your self to avoid damage and work the amazing disjointed hitbox marth has, i forgot where i heard this but someone told me with marth on the ground its all about mindgaming the oponent into a grab, and in the air its all about knocking them away from the stage trying to set up an edgeguard, now some people disagree because then what would be the point of trying to shuffle and stuff, and when this wont work you know against advanced gameplay then i try going on the offensive with 2x fairs or nairs, also notice where the oppenents tech so you could tech chase them i kinda noticed you rushed into some attacks, oh and some nice mindgames i think is like when you wavedash back and forth *avoid projectile* when you shuffle aerials in place, stuff like that basically the best mindgame i think is when you frustrate your oppenents with *gay ***** oh and the key to becoming great is just keep going to tournaments and keep playing different people on a constant basis and adapt stuff from higher level players......... I dont normally do this and im bored so this probably wont be that helpful, and kizzu love the guy is not better than ken

 

[brawlpro]

Ok, can eryone just stop joanin. this vid was bout 2 weeks ago and dats more dan enough time for me get used to d.i., waveshines, and l cancles. when we make da nxt vid, u'll see what my fox can do! jst look it up on a post under charac specific for marth or fox by brawlpro or edgeswipe21

 

[edgeswipe21]

umm...yes, i guess it isn't good to roll to space, but i was afraid to jump bc of fox's u air rolling seemed like a safe bet. Ne tips?

 

[Imperial Wraith]

Nice one brawlpro. Its good to see that ya want to improve. Good luck!

 

[brawlpro]

Nice one brawlpro. Its good to see that ya want to improve. Good luck!

Yo, i already did improve, edgeswipe21 was workin on his mind games and i wasn't really workin on anything so i kinda froze and didn't know when to strike. u know there was a match between edgeswipe21 and i in which i came in victorious(barely),either way the match isn't great, it happened about a month and a half ago. well if anyone wants to or has time to, check it out, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHMl3mMUulU

 

[edgeswipe21]

hahaha...lol since then i owned u so that much isn't significant. We got a lot better since that match though.

 

[brawlpro]

hahaha...lol since then i owned u so that much isn't significant. We got a lot better since that match though.

Ya ur right, but i just wanna rec. another match so i can show eryone dat i don't suck anymore! I Have A Dream, that one day, everyone will judge each other from the present not past. I Have A Dream, that if someone tells someone else that they r better, the other person beleives them. and I Have A Dream, that no one, makes fun of this post.

 

[edgeswipe21]

i have been playing paper mario.. u can probably beat me...i'll have to warm up

 

[brawlpro]

i have been playing paper mario.. u can probably beat me...i'll have to warm up

How far r u, almost done? thats 1 o the reasons i slacked off, i was playin another game so i sucked durin the real thing. don not make the same mistake i did! post back here i u get stuck, bring it back nxt time u come over, only if ur done dat is!

 

[edgeswipe21]

no man so far its super super easy and fun. Been leveling up in the pit of 100 trails. Only thing thats kinda annoying is everytime i try to gain another stats like FP or health a better badge comes along and I CANT WEAR IT! so i guess i'll only gain badge points. Hopefully that not bad. Oh and i am lvl 27 now.

 

[brawlpro]

no man so far its super super easy and fun. Been leveling up in the pit of 100 trails. Only thing thats kinda annoying is everytime i try to gain another stats like FP or health a better badge comes along and I CANT WEAR IT! so i guess i'll only gain badge points. Hopefully that not bad. Oh and i am lvl 27 now.

To complete pit o 100 trials, be lv30 or over. if u want it done easily be lv33+.

 

[brawlpro]

no man so far its super super easy and fun. Been leveling up in the pit of 100 trails. Only thing thats kinda annoying is everytime i try to gain another stats like FP or health a better badge comes along and I CANT WEAR IT! so i guess i'll only gain badge points. Hopefully that not bad. Oh and i am lvl 27 now.

To comp. 100 trials, be at least lv30, to comp. it with super ease be at least lv33+ and have that one jump badge equipped where u don't stop jumpin until u miss a command and have a lot of fp and fp healin stuff.

 

[edgeswipe21]

where u get that badge! i thought that one move was for that goomfrey. and yeah that the prob i m not getting the chance to gain hp or fp because then i can't wear the badges that i want to. I got 67 badge points and still not enough!

 

[brawlpro]

That badge is called Power Bounce. bp:3...fp:3..... u find it somewhere near da entrance of hooktail castle. u might have already gotten it or sold it which i hope u didn't, check to make sure u didn't sell it to that rat or check to see if u already have it. if u don't, explore near hooktail castle's entrance.
Oh and did u hear about this humungus tourney happinin in stl, called the smash circuit. to get all the info on it, click here: http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=104116&page=6. its post #86 i think. thank sam dvds for it! aight peace.

 

[thebluedeath1000]

I watched the link you pmed me edge.

Opening chaingrab..you do not start uptilting( as you said your up-smashes were meant to be up-tilts) till around 30, I usually do mine about 32-33ish. You should have just continued the chaingrab.

Less rolling, it really made you predictable and limited your options.

At moments like 31 seconds, you need to take advantage of those..he was in his over-b and you were right at him, he had no jumps and you could have started a lethal combo.

At around 1 minute, he was recovering back with fire fox and you just watched him...why? you need to be edgeguarding.

At 1.30, you moved to the edge for no reason, this isn't very smart..then you started near the edge instead of getting your back away from it. If you're fighting fox, and you're on the edge, you're in trouble.

Once again..stop rolling so much.

Work on ending your chaingrabs better, either start a combo from them or get an f-smash. You really need to abuse bad di.

He firefoxed at 3.09 and you didn't punish him for it despite you being in range, work on this.

Big thing=Learn to tech chase.

You didn't approach on the ground very much, mix it up.

Your spacing was decent but needs work. You need to be mixing up your approaches and fast fall your aerials that you aren't continuing in the air. Learn which spots are bad for marth against certain opponents, etc...You are learning and on the right track.

 

[edgeswipe21]

thnx , yeah i m very laid back and lazy EVEN IN THE GAME . yeah i missed the firefox i was tring to back tip him but he was barely out of reach. I'll work on the stuff. thnx

 

[brawlpro]

Yo, edgeswipe, i can prolly come over this week-end. is dis week-end aight. anyway, lets post da vid under the winners name, i meen if u wanna dat is.

Yeah...i don't suck as bad as i did on dat vid. well i don't suck as much at least.

 

[edgeswipe21]

hey how did u get ur signature under ur post??

 

[brawlpro]

Dude just click on the forum jump at the bottom right of da screen and click on user control panle. once there click on edit signature on da left of da screen. then type up what u want as ur sig. u could also get someone to make u a nice sig at the artroom places. just read their directions. oh yeah and is this week-end okay for me to come over. if u still occur some prob. click go advanced i think and go to da bottom of the screen and where it says show sig click on it so a check appears in the box.

 

[edgeswipe21]

ok i got it , but i can't get the whole thing!!!

 

[brawlpro]

Maybe u should try to find another size of ask someone in da artroom if they can do somethin bout it. i dunno?