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Any advice for applying tech skill?

MajiNfraze

Smash Apprentice
Joined
May 29, 2006
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Anyone have any advice for learning to APPLY tech skill with the spacies? I can do pretty much everything on the falco school, but most of the time I have to just practice by myself (work/school schedule blows) and when it comes time to play competent, non-nubs in singles I end up focusing too much on doing fancy complicated things. I see Falcos that are more successful using a lot more f- and d-smashes and looking generally "slower" but having better spacing and move selection.

My question, is that is there any helpful hints or advice for practicing spacing and applying tech skill in a real match OTHER than pure experience?

My main problems are these:

A. Focusing too much on continuing a fancy combo instead of throwing a well-placed d or f smash.

B. Worrying more about getting hits in, instead of worrying about what moves land. It ends up often that I will out-damage and out-fight my opponent generally, but they will live past 120% damage and kill me at little over 80.

C. Completely giving up the edge. My only edgegaurds are spamming shffl d-airs, charging a dsmash, ledgefall-shine-reverse dair, or ledgehop bair, but my spacing can be off against humans.

Anyone got an idea how to improve my edgegames? Or my spacing? Or recovery? When I play I feel predictable, then I get frustrated, then my hands get slow and my whole game goes to hell. How do you guys deal with stress/frustration in matches? Any good rules for when its a good idea to just c-stick ftw? Thanks all
 

Miharu

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You just need to implement said techniques in real situations more often, so you can get to the point where you'll instinctively know which move to apply to which situation. That way, you can focus less on worrying about which move to use, and focus more on your opponent.

In short, play with people more. That's about the only way to really solve this problem.
 

Lorcl678

Smash Apprentice
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May 16, 2006
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San Jose
A. Well, I'm not sure what you would consider a "fancy combo," but just a FYI, smash moves are not your only finishers. ALL of Falco's moves are finishers, depending on how you use it. Not all combos have to end with a D/F smash.

B. Not sure if I understand your question fully, but what you should worry about is focusing on your opponent. I think the problem is that you're just using only a few moves to finish off your opponent. Don't just go spamming random moves and hope he dies; the move obvious you are, the more you'll get punished.

C. There is no specific move you should use while edge guarding, EVERY move is an edge guarding move depending on the uses and the opponent's character. You'll learn these ways through experience.
 

Cereal Rabbit

Smash Lord
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MajiNfraze said:
My main problems are these:

A. Focusing too much on continuing a fancy combo instead of throwing a well-placed d or f smash.
Just drop a few habits. Space yourself out and "fancy combos" should be an indication that you're not grabbing enough. Up Throw/UpTilt to Bair should be a good killer move for a few characters. You're whole game isn't about racking up damage but rather trying to get your opponents off the stage, grab your opponents and shoot lasers like mad.

MajiNfraze said:
B. Worrying more about getting hits in, instead of worrying about what moves land. It ends up often that I will out-damage and out-fight my opponent generally, but they will live past 120% damage and kill me at little over 80.
You just need to know that winning isn't giving more damage but getting your opponent off the stage. Uhm, if you've hit your opponent, you know that's one step closer to getting your opponent off the stage.

MajiNfraze said:
C. Completely giving up the edge. My only edgegaurds are spamming shffl d-airs, charging a dsmash, ledgefall-shine-reverse dair, or ledgehop bair, but my spacing can be off against humans.
Shoot lasers if they're coming horizontally. If their coming horizontally also, if they've lost their second jump because of your laser, Bair. I know it's flashier, but if you know your opponent is already going to lose a stock, some instincts tell you to hit your opponent off the stage when you're on the ledge and they're coming back. If you're on the ledge and your opponent's only way to get back on the stage is the ledge, just hit the L or R button and roll off. There's no need to jump back for a Bair.
 

demon itachi

Smash Cadet
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Oct 24, 2006
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a good way to kill is lazers into shine to bair or lzer into down tilt. you can also down throw thech chase into a forward throw and they will sheild cuz they expect another d throw. grabs are your best attack!!
 

anotherdeadcow

Smash Apprentice
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Mar 17, 2007
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lapeer, mi
A. Focusing too much on continuing a fancy combo instead of throwing a well-placed d or f smash.
i think i know what you mean by this. you see so many pro videos, and the techniques they use are universally useful, but the application is something you have to experiment with yourself. try to focus more on winning then forcing yourself to use techs and they fill in more naturally. like they said before me, matches arent won on hits, combos, or damage, they are won by taking stocks. of course more damage means easier kills, but understand that a chance at a kill out prioritizes a chance at a combo. other than that, if you already have the technical skills worked out, maybe its time to take some focus off them and place it back on to focusing on what the enemy is doing. i think we all were playing this way back before we knew of advanced techs, but all too often people lose sight of this when they start learning the techs and are sorely disappointed by the techs not really improving their chances of winning...
 
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