Anti Edgegrabbing attacks with Shulk

[DEHF]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3NClPEOulQ

 

[Virum]

Thank you based Larry. This has always been something I've personally struggled with. Nice to know there are more options than spaced DTilt. I think spaced FSmash will probably be my go to option.

 

[Berserker.]

I think this video should be put in the in the metagame thread op @ Masonomace

Good stuff.

 

[Nammy12]

Using d-air on a ledge opponent is soooooo satisfying.

 

[InfinityZERO]

Since most of those are punishable, what I try to do is Fair and then go for Vision. Fair is pretty fast and will go through their invincibility frames and then they'll try to punish it. Hence Vision.

Is anyone finding a particular Monado Art to be useful when Cold Steeling? Cold Steeling is when you grab the ledge after they grab the ledge and they're forced off and to the left.

 

[Masonomace]

Is anyone finding a particular Monado Art to be useful when Cold Steeling? Cold Steeling is when you grab the ledge after they grab the ledge and they're forced off and to the left.

It varies because different characters have different arc distances. I've had success with every MArt except Jump & Buster. Surprisingly I do well more with Speed & Shield because of the jump height decrease out of ledge-dropping > DJ >B-air, & while Smash B-air could be good I've never landed it. I was confused at first because I've never heard of Cold Steeling before, but knew about Ledge-Trumping.

 

[InfinityZERO]

Usually the YouTube channels I see tournament play on (Tourny Locator or VGBootCamp) call it Cold Steel, but it's good to know the other term. Thanks for always being helpful Masonomace!

 

[Masonomace]

Usually the YouTube channels I see tournament play on (Tourny Locator or VGBootCamp) call it Cold Steel, but it's good to know the other term. Thanks for always being helpful Masonomace!

Interesting. Sorry but thank you ∞0

 

[erico9001]

Air Slash works when spaced, but it's also punishable. A well planned out Bair can hit them too, since it goes under

Most commonly, I either use down tilted F-smash or Dtilt.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

If you can knock your opponent off the ledge once or they drop down and lose their invincibility once they regrab it, do a down angled fsmash just as their about to grab it for the most hillarious ko they'll never expect (only at higher percents obviously) unless you're poor Little Mac

Not sure if this is exactly the same idea, but it still punishes someone on the ledge: activate Jump, jump past them as if you're about to try and stage spike them, and quickly jump back onto the stage as they come up from the ledge and use whatever move you see fit. I've done this multiple times to get an fsmash off at higher percents for the kill or just go off stage and gimp with Jump, since it's already activated.

 

[Masonomace]

I'd like to believe myself that I've done a SH > FF > B-air with the front portion of the hit-box & hitting them while they're ledge-hanging, but, I can't say I remember doing it. (I thought I did recently but dunno)