An Unlikely Duo Gets A Reveal Trailer!

[TropicalTaco]

Mewtwo in Melee was a ****ty, badly designed character. The fact that people wouldn't stfu about him is probably one of the main reasons he is coming back.

Checkmate. Now go away.

Nice diatribe. Too bad that Mewtwo being poorly designed in Melee has literally nothing to do with the Ice Climbers being poorly designed in both Melee and Brawl (mostly Brawl).

I give credit where it's due, and there are very few Ice Climbers players that I can legitimately give credit to, as I feel like a very large amount of Ice Climbers players aren't actual "players" of the character. Just a huge gaggle of scrubs who flocked to the character to pocket them as something to whip out for cheese wins against people who either weren't mentally prepared to deal with them, or who played characters with inappropriate tools to combat them (or both).

Ice Climbers were like the other Meta Knight, and their very existence was enough to negate more than half the cast from being competitively viable. You were either forced to pick a character that could fight them (and even if you did, there was no real counterpicking them), or walk away from the game... I, personally, chose to tough it out as a Link/Samus main, and I have no regrets.

My point stands, though: The Ice Climbers were a badly designed character, and their absence from Smash 4 will only promote growth and diversity in its metagame.

The funny thing is, barring Meta Knight and Ice Climbers, I think Brawl would've been an extremely well balanced game, and that it would have lived a bit longer.

Melee will probably continue to stay alive for a long time, but Brawl will not, and I think there's a damn good reason for that.

Character diversity is a lot more important to a game's lifespan than I think a lot of you are probably aware of. Fortunately, I don't foresee that being a problem with Smash 4.

 

[TropicalTaco]

Thats your opinion, and anyone who takes you seriously because of it is a fool. But if you want to express your opinion, you could at least be more mature about it. >_>

A fair bit of what I said on this page is based on more than just "opinion," but yes, I concede that I should've presented myself in a less hostile manner, and that my initial post was little more than the dumping-out of my own inner hatred for the Ice Climbers.

In any case, this has escalated farther than I anticipated/desired, and I realize now there's no good way for this to end, so I'm ending this conversation now.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

What an awesome yet funny reveal trailer for Duck Hunt! ^_^ Loved the humour, especially the part where Duck Hunt closes his eyes because of how revealing Shulk is! Too lewd for the biggest troll in the roster.

If he has hard time with Shulk, I bet he can't deal with rest of Xenoblade's cast.

 

[Diamond DHD]

OMG

The most irrelevant pile of garbage character to ever grace our ****ing presence. Why can't I contain my excitement?

I like how the trailer expected me to be excited for this stupid trash. **** off, Nintendo.

The salt is real

 

[Zzuxon]

OMG

The most irrelevant pile of garbage character to ever grace our ****ing presence. Why can't I contain my excitement?

I like how the trailer expected me to be excited for this stupid trash. **** off, Nintendo.

 

[Aurane]

A fair bit of what I said on this page is based on more than just "opinion," but yes, I concede that I should've presented myself in a less hostile manner, and that my initial post was little more than the dumping-out of my own inner hatred for the Ice Climbers.

In any case, this has escalated farther than I anticipated/desired, and I realize now there's no good way for this to end, so I'm ending this conversation now.

That would be best.

 

[elitex12]

So..... What Happened ?

I can answer the Roy part... his spirit lives on within Lucina.

 

[Syrek]

OMG

The most irrelevant pile of garbage character to ever grace our ****ing presence. Why can't I contain my excitement?

I like how the trailer expected me to be excited for this stupid trash. **** off, Nintendo.

 

[Aninymouse]

What are you talking about? After Takamaru's death, a decent amount of people anticipated the Duck Hunt Dog.

He may have not been considered "likley," but he definitley was not "unpredictable".

Even though you may have noticed many people who expected Duck Hunt to join, I've talked with people who were shocked about it. To claim that one group of people outnumbers another as a way of discrediting @ KhanYe 's writeup, without any facts or figures, is just a he-said-she-said clash of opinions. You're more likely to notice the people who agree with you, in general.

I was genuinely surprised about Duck Hunt, personally. I thought Little Mac was going to count towards a "retro revival" this time; I didn't expect there to be two!

 

[MajinBuu272]

This would have been MUCH better if it was revealed before the Japanese demo was released... like in August or early September...
But I'm still hyped for the duck hunt stage and the reveal trailer was still awesome!

 

[Cancel]

I might actually use this character. Its either going to be him or Lucina 0ne of those two. 0.o

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Duck hunt stage confirmed. The hype is real. I am so happy I bought my Wii u and preordered smash with my birthday cash.

 

[AirFair]

This trailer was funny imo.

 

[aleckermit]

One of my favorite character additions, but I think the dog's design could have been better... he doesn't look much like his 8-bit self except when he snickers, and he looks too puppy-like.

 

[shogungari]

I was kinda hoping at the end the camera panned to the Ice Climbers and Popo asks why the duck is teaming up with the dog of the hunter that killed hundreds of his kind before Mario stares at him angerly while tearing up their Smash invitation letter and dropping the shreddings on the ground in front of them.

 

[Tino]

That trailer was pretty hilarious if I do say so myself but aside from that, it was alright.

 

[SanicJan]

I think in the 8 bit sprite part they should of added Pac-Man and Mr. Game and Watch because Mr. Game and Watch would fit quite well and Pac-Man would make sense as he was 8-bit once as well. I'm suprised they didn't do a NES rep battle at all in the trailer with DHD against R.O.B.

 

[KhanYe]

Even though you may have noticed many people who expected Duck Hunt to join, I've talked with people who were shocked about it. To claim that one group of people outnumbers another as a way of discrediting @ KhanYe 's writeup, without any facts or figures, is just a he-said-she-said clash of opinions. You're more likely to notice the people who agree with you, in general.

I was genuinely surprised about Duck Hunt, personally. I thought Little Mac was going to count towards a "retro revival" this time; I didn't expect there to be two!

You're too kind! :]

 

[taolem]

Wow! That's...uhh..eh...hmph. Nothing new...

Uh, it's a trailer for a character, what did you expect.

Also, they revealed a Duck Hunt stage and some new music.

 

[MrGame&Rock]

What an awesome yet funny reveal trailer for Duck Hunt! ^_^ Loved the humour, especially the part where Duck Hunt closes his eyes because of how revealing Shulk is! Too lewd for the biggest troll in the roster.

How'd they get him to make that pose though? That's what DH does when they shield, but there's no shield present. Im confuzzled...

 

[Deleted member]

Nice diatribe. Too bad that Mewtwo being poorly designed in Melee has literally nothing to do with the Ice Climbers being poorly designed in both Melee and Brawl (mostly Brawl).

My post was short and sweet. You're the one who is posting a diatribe.

The Ice Climbers could have been better designed in Smash 4. This is a new game after all and many characters have received noticeable changes. Using your logic, they should have cut MK from the roster because of his poor design in Brawl. But they didn't. He is an iconic Nintendo character who has earned his place on the roster despite any current or previous design flaws. Many feel the same way about the Ice Climbers. They were 2-time veterans with a unique playstyle who helped represent Nintendo's history, which is what this game is all about.

Character diversity is a lot more important to a game's lifespan than I think a lot of you are probably aware of.

Lmfao, you do realize that the inclusion of the Ice Climbers would only make the roster more diverse, right? You just typed out a huge post only to contradict yourself right at the end.

Your argument is stupid.

 

[Diamond DHD]

How'd they get him to make that pose though? That's what DH does when they shield, but there's no shield present. Im confuzzled...

Maybe they removed the shield bubble effect for the purpose of the trailer

 

[BunnyBoy1337]

Y'know... some people might consider those saying things about "where's Wolf" and "I need more DLC!" as being negative... but I find it rather encouraging.

The more people talking about it and wanting it, the more likely Nintendo is to notice and make it happen! Keep on beggin'!

Agreed. Hey, it worked on EA. Begging is the only reason The Sims 4 is getting pools. On a more related topic, I'd like to see Maxwell from Scribblenauts and a Raving Rabbid as DLC. I'm watching you, Sakurai.

 

[Himynameisisaac]

I wish we could have seen Sonic in one of these trailers

 

[AZ_Spellbound]

Duck Hunt is too kawaii <3

 

[Nu~]

Welp, now adding duck hunt team (what I dub them now) to my list of mains

 

[Chris Sifniotis]

Did mario give him the finger?

Not just the finger, The Moving Finger!!!!

 

[TropicalTaco]

My post was short and sweet. You're the one who is posting a diatribe.

The Ice Climbers could have been better designed in Smash 4. This is a new game after all and many characters have received noticeable changes. Using your logic, they should have cut MK from the roster because of his poor design in Brawl. But they didn't. He is an iconic Nintendo character who has earned his place on the roster despite any current or previous design flaws. Many feel the same way about the Ice Climbers. They were 2-time veterans with a unique playstyle who helped represent Nintendo's history, which is what this game is all about.



Lmfao, you do realize that the inclusion of the Ice Climbers would only make the roster more diverse, right? You just typed out a huge post only to contradict yourself right at the end.

Your argument is stupid.

Way to deliberately misinterpret what I said about diversity. (To clarify, though, just on the off chance that you didn't deliberately misinterpret me, I was referring to character diversity in matchups.)

Also, for the record, I don't think Meta Knight should be cut. Just balanced better (which, thankfully, he appears to be). That's the key difference, though. Meta Knight actually can be balanced. While Ice Climbers, imo, cannot be. They're either abysmally bad or overwhelmingly good. Those are the two extremes, and there is no in-between.

Their flaws as a character extend well beyond them just being able to 0-death a character via chaingrabs, and them having a "unique" playstyle isn't justification for them being a conceptually bad character from the start (which they are).

I'd go into more detail on this, but you come across as antagonistic and somewhat juvenile (I also don't care enough), so I'll spare you further explanation, saving both my time and yours.

 

[BobEugCox]

Agreed. Hey, it worked on EA. Begging is the only reason The Sims 4 is getting pools. On a more related topic, I'd like to see Maxwell from Scribblenauts and a Raving Rabbid as DLC. I'm watching you, Sakurai.

Those would be some GREAT 3rd party characters to add. There is no denying that both have been a HUGE part of the Nintendo line-up in the last I dunno... 7-10 years. I will say though, that I'd rather see Rayman playable and the Rabbids as an assist trophy.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Kinda wish that the Duck Hunt stage was in HD like the CG part of the trailer.

Could that be an alternate version of the stage?

Let us hope......

 

[Xiao-Xiao]

There's a difference between asking and sending salt induced hatemail everytime your favorite character isn't mentioned. Sakurai calls you guys children for a reason.

 

[jaytalks]

Technically, it's not a duo, as the hunter is involved in attacks as well. more like a trio.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Technically, it's not a duo, as the hunter is involved in attacks as well. more like a trio.

Technically, there's seven people involved as there are two people of each two different kinds of gunmen from Wild Gunman in the Final Smash and I assume at least one of each shows up for the Down-B.

 

[isoldmyname]

Y'know, I knew that the ESRB leak was real. You know why?
I knew that there would be people being ticked off about the fact Mewtwo and Ridley weren't in (half resolved.)
I also thought "Duck Hunt Dog" (as he was called at the time; apparently they never saw the duck) was unexpected to say the least, but that it was left-field enough of a concept NOT to be real, if that makes sense.
But it appears Nintendo is making it work, after all. ^_^

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

But it appears Nintendo is making it work, after all. ^_^

...in a Banjo-Kazooie way ^_^

 

[Ryu Myuutsu]

Wasn't Duck Hunt one of the rumored newcomers in the Pre-Brawl days when information of the roster was being leaked? I remember that a lot of people used to joke about his inclusion.
It's kind of funny how it eventually became true.

 

[Deleted member]

Meta Knight actually can be balanced. While Ice Climbers, imo, cannot be. They're either abysmally bad or overwhelmingly good. Those are the two extremes, and there is no in-between..

What a huge cop-out of an answer. Come back when you've actually attempted to balance a game.

I'd go into more detail on this, but you come across and antagonistic and somewhat juvenile

Said the person who cheered when a beloved Smash character got cut and then brought up the topic in the comment section of a newcomer video. Talk about antagonistic and childish.

 

[pants the terrible]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjn0fevBTfM

lets blame princess peach for hunting the duck out of our pizza pies!

eh, idk. this is just a cool tribute to duck hunt and classic games in general. its how i felt about making the sprite a day revenge pizza saga thing. making nostalgia have a story.

 

[Railz]

what is the story behind why the duck helps the dog? l;ike after years of the dog capturing and bringing all its family to their deaths. a single duck decides to aid the dog in its battles.

 

[BrawlKarter]

The reactions from all the different Gunners....
Priceless