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Alternate Costumes

Andy4Brawl_911

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Well we know about there are going to be alternate costumes, for characters. With Link confirmed to be playable in the costume Fierce Diety Link, I explored the ideas for other costumes, for other characters. I started of with ten possibilities and narrowed it down to 2 or better 1. Since I might upset some fan boys when you see the (“) on both sides of the name, it means well it’s possibility. Normally I shall try and resort to doing the (“) but some characters are hard. Also, for some of my options I have put a (‘) around the word, this is to say, it will have some modifications (Like resize,) or it’s just a very unlikely idea. Oh ad for one of my options I had this (?) That means I created the character, and made his appearance up. Enjoy…. Oh and fan boys that have a (“) over their devoted character, please don’t complain, but remember it is a possibility although some can be dud. Oh and my favourite idea is Boshi as an alternate costume.

1) Mario
- “Dr. Mario”
- Shadow Mario

1) Peach
- Daisy
- Princess Rosalina

2) Bowser
- “Bowser Jnr.”
- Skeletal Bowser

3) Link
- Fierce Deity Link (Confirmed)
- “Wind Waker Link”

4) Zelda
- Midna (Human Form)
- ‘Wind Waker Zelda’

5) Yoshi
- Boshi
- Paper Yoshi
 

Andy4Brawl_911

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6) Donkey Kong
- ‘Chunky Kong’
- Donkey Kong Jr.

7) Diddy Kong
- “Dixie Kong”
- ‘Kiddie Kong’

8) Pikachu
- “Pichu”
- Raichu

9) Pokemon Trainer
- Pokemon Trainer (Female)

10) Kirby
- Shadow Kirby
- Rick The Hamster

11) Meta-knight
- Sword Night
- Blade Knight

12) King Dedede
- ‘King Dedede’s appearance in cartoon’
- ‘King Dedede’s appearance in Kirby Super Star’
 

Andy4Brawl_911

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13) Lucas
- “Ness”
- Ninten

14) Fox
- “Wolf”
- ‘James McCloud’

15) Samus
- “Dark Samus”
- ‘Noxus’

16) Ice Climbers
- ?Volcano Climbers? (Appear to wear, more Hawaii vacation clothing with bamboo hammers)

17) Ike
- “Black Knight”
- “Roy”

18) Wario
- Original Wario

19) Pit
- ‘Pit’s original artwork’

20) Snake
- “Liquid Snake”
- ‘Big Boss’

21) Sonic
- “Shadow The Hedgehog”
- ‘Blaze The Cat’
 

Reyairia

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Silver the hedgehog wouldn't make a good AC, because his battle-style is completely different than Sonic's and it wouldn't be true to his character. Blaze the Cat would be a better alternative because she's the third character to have appeared with sonic speed.

Nice part about WindWaker Link and Ness being ACs, because I'm up for that myself.

I'm really looking forward to this feature in Brawl.
 

Andy4Brawl_911

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I replace Silver with Blaze. I am actually really excited about alternae costumes because that means their is no clones.
 

Reyairia

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I replace Silver with Blaze. I am actually really excited about alternae costumes because that means their is no clones.
Great. :)
Same here, as I never really had anything against clones myself, and it would enable a larger amount of characters to get into Brawl.
 

xianfeng

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2) Bowser
- “Bowser Jnr.”
- Skeletal Bowser
Jr wouldn't work, he's way too small.

3) Link
- Fierce Deity Link (Confirmed)
- “Wind Waker Link”
Where was Fierce Deity confirmed? Wind Waker wouldn't work, different sizes

4) Zelda
- Midna (Human Form)
- ‘Wind Waker Zelda’
Wind Waker wouldn't work, different sizes

6) Donkey Kong
- ‘Chunky Kong’
- Donkey Kong Jr.
Doesn't work for Chunky, try Swanky or Funky.

7) Diddy Kong
- “Dixie Kong”
- ‘Kiddie Kong’
Doesn't work for either, Diddy has a PINK costume not a Dixie one and do you even know what Kiddy looks like?
8) Pikachu
- “Pichu”
- Raichu
Wouldn't work, the bodys are different shapes.

10) Kirby
- Shadow Kirby
- Rick The Hamster
How would a blob turn into a hamster?


15) Samus
- “Dark Samus”
- ‘Noxus’
How would Noxus work?

17) Ike
- “Black Knight”
- “Roy”
Do you even know what the hell Black Knight looks like?

21) Sonic
- “Shadow The Hedgehog”
- ‘Blaze The Cat’
How would Blaze the Cat work?
 

Andy4Brawl_911

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Xianfeng, i think you might need to reed ym writting before the list (') this mean will need mods and (") this mean popular to be his own character but, depending on the character might need a mode. Ike, Diddy
and Kirby are hard, and i was really having difficulty finding alternate costumes, but Dedede was super hard.

I believe Kiddy Kong sucks, but it was super hard to find an alternate.

Sakurai i don't think aint gonna put Black Nght in so he might become an AC.

Rick the Hamster is the closest frind to kirb that has nearest appearance, the other is Gooey but he isn't shaped like Kirby.

Also for Wind Wkaer characters and Bowser Jnr. they're likely to be modified if playable.

I don't see anything wrong with Raichu and maybe a bit of a mod to Pichu

I had funk on the list i will change him later
 

vesperview

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I'm listing the ones I completely disagree with

2) Bowser
- “Bowser Jnr.”
Different size and different character NO!

3) Link
- “Wind Waker Link”
Different size, different character, different abilities.

4) Zelda
- Midna (Human Form)
FAIL!

6) Donkey Kong
- ‘Chunky Kong’
- Donkey Kong Jr.
FAIL, maybe only a DK Jr. Shirt, but it won't go beyond that.

7) Diddy Kong
- “Dixie Kong”
- ‘Kiddie Kong’
EPIC FAIL! Dixie is a girl and Kiddy has muscles and is a baby.

10) Kirby
- Rick The Hamster
lol wut?

12) King Dedede
- ‘King Dedede’s appearance in cartoon’
Not happening

13) Lucas
- “Ness”
- Ninten
Ridiculous, they are all different characters is like saying Marth can have a Roy costume.

14) Fox
- “Wolf”
- ‘James McCloud’
Wolf only a recolor and James looks just like Fox a waste.

17) Ike
- “Black Knight”
- “Roy”
Black Knight and Roy? WTF?

19) Pit
- ‘Pit’s original artwork’
Pit's original look is to ****ty for Brawl otherwise he would've kept it.

20) Snake
- ‘Big Boss’
No.

21) Sonic
- “Shadow The Hedgehog”
- ‘Blaze The Cat’
Shadow could be a recolor and Blaze is not important enough to even be a recolor or alt costume.
 

Reyairia

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^What's wrong with having a different character as an AC? :ohwell:

Okay, let me put this in huge text so people read it;

WHO SAYS ALTERNATE COSTUMES CAN'T BE USED TO INCLUDE DIFFERENT CHARACTERS AND THAT THEY WON'T INCLUDE RESIZING AS WELL?
 

Reyairia

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Is ridiculous and illogical, that's why. only Daisy, Wolf and Dark Samus work because they look so much like their counterparts.
This is a Smash game, it's not supposed to be too logical. :ohwell:
And what is so ridiculous about including a wider variety of characters?
And who died and made you boss to decide what is logical and what isn't?
 

Reyairia

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The fact that the smash game doesn't epitomize logic, doesn't mean they're gonna take it to the extreme and have Midna as a Zelda alt, is stupid.
I don't see the extremity of the situation at all.
Who died and made you boss to decide what is logical and what isn't?
 

Reyairia

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Keep hallucinating then it's not gonna happen. Not every character can have alternate costumes and alternate costumes are COSTUMES not characters.
Uh, you yourself said the exceptions. I don't see why you are so narrow-minded just to dismiss it when it's clearly a very nice idea. Maybe I don't see it to degree this list is, but I sure see it with a good amount of characters.
 

HollabackRyu

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Uh, you yourself said the exceptions. I don't see why you are so narrow-minded just to dismiss it when it's clearly a very nice idea. Maybe I don't see it to degree this list is, but I sure see it with a good amount of characters.


if you think this makes sense your ****ing ********!
 

Shuma

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Dark Samus wouldn't work as an Alt. he/she would become an AT first.

Besides... Samus doesn't have a Dark Samus suit WTF is the meaning of this thread? many of the alt. costumes you propose have been deconfirmed since the demo.
 

Reyairia

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if you think this makes sense your ****ing ********!
The ****?
Sonic Rush was one of the better recent Sonic games (of course, that title isn't hard to achieve, but this game was reminiscent of the older 2D games) and Blaze runs at sonic speed the same way both Sonic and Shadow do:. I wouldn't count on her being an AC, but it would not be a stretch at all for her to be in relations to the game/character.

(At least I don't put you're as the possessive your)
 

vesperview

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Uh, you yourself said the exceptions.
Yeah but those exceptions don't have their own moveset (minus Dark Samus), are not as important to the franchise, etc, etc, etc, they are not gonna make Zelda, Midna or Bowser, Bowser Jr. is ridiculous and stupid.

and he is right, Blaze is a Cat and Sonic is a Hedgehog, is ******** to think one could become the other.
 

Reyairia

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Yeah but those exceptions don't have their own moveset (minus Dark Samus), are not as important to the franchise, etc, etc, etc, they are not gonna make Zelda, Midna or Bowser, Bowser Jr. is ridiculous and stupid.

and he is right, Blaze is a Cat and Sonic is a Hedgehog, is ******** to think one could become the other.
I think you're too narrow minded. :ohwell:
I think that with AC means that there could be clones, and clones can be achieved if they both have similar moves and fighting style. Blaze in the newer Sonic the Hedgehog was little more than a clone of Sonic, except that curling into a ball she spinned around in a circle. So I think it's possible, whether it's going to happen or not is a different story.
 

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I think you're too narrow minded. :ohwell:
I think that with AC means that there could be clones, and clones can be achieved if they both have similar moves and fighting style. Blaze in the newer Sonic the Hedgehog was little more than a clone of Sonic, except that curling into a ball she spinned around in a circle. So I think it's possible, whether it's going to happen or not is a different story.
I'm not narrow minded I just don't open my mind to such suggestions, I'm supposed to pick Zelda looking like Midna and still call her Zelda? I don't think so!

and Kirby turning into Rick the Hamster is the most ******** suggestion I have ever heard, is not gonna happen I could bet anything on it.
 

Shuma

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Oh my... Sonic doesn't even have alt. costumes... what are you debating?
 

Reyairia

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I'm not narrow minded I just don't open my mind to such suggestions, I'm supposed to pick Zelda looking like Midna and still call her Zelda? I don't think so!

and Kirby turning into Rick the Hamster is the most ******** suggestion I have ever heard, is not gonna happen I could bet anything on it.
-shrug-
Better than not having Midna at all in my opinion
Besides, it's pretty easy, you click a button to see the choices of colors you have, and then you see -insert character here- I don't see the big deal.
 

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Well, that's your opinion. I think it's an excellent idea to include characters and avoid clones.
They are still going to occupy memory in the game disc and not in the selection screen, Sakurai said he was not gonna put clones in this game and by far he meant in every sense of the word so Midna is not gonna be a Zelda clone even if they are in the same space in the selection screen.
 

Reyairia

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So it's ok to have Midna in and call her Zelda? hahaha good one.
It's okay to include Daisy and call her Peach? Yes.
Is it okay to include Wolf and call him Fox? Yes.

I still see no problem. Sure, maybe some modification to the moveset as to make Midna's magic a different color like with Ganondorf as opposed to Captain Falcon in Melee, but it can be easily done.
 

Shuma

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"Well, that's your opinion. I think it's an excellent idea to include characters and avoid clones."

That's like Saying Sakurai would make Ridley a Bowser clone but to avoid it he makes Ridley an alt. costume to Bowser, the same applies to Midna and K. rool.
 

Reyairia

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"Well, that's your opinion. I think it's an excellent idea to include characters and avoid clones."

That's like Saying Sakurai would make Ridley a Bowser clone but to avoid it he makes Ridley an alt. costume to Bowser, the same applies to Midna and K. rool.
Uh...
Ridley is too important a character to be left only as an alternate costume. Midna or Blaze aren't.
 
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