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All Moves Pikachu Can Crouch Under

busken

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:4bowser:Bowser
Ftilt (up-angled)
Fire Breath (up-angled)

:4bowserjr:Bowser Jr.
Ftilt(angled up)


:4falcon:Captain Falcon
Ftilt (up-angled & straight forward)
Fsmash (up-angled)
Grab(max range)

:4charizard:Charizard
Ftilt (up-angled)
Flamethrower (up-angled)

:4diddy:Diddy Kong
None.

:4dk:Donkey Kong
Ftilt (up-angled)

:4drmario: Dr.Mario
None.

:4duckhunt:
Black Hat Gunman

:4falco:Falco
Ftilt (up-angled)
Blaster

:4fox:Fox
Ftilt (up-angled)
Blaster

:4ganondorf:Ganondorf
Jab
Fsmash (up-angled)
Warlock Punch (mid-end range)
Wizard's Foot

:4gaw:Mr. Game & Watch
Utilt

:4greninja:Greninja
None.

:4myfriends:Ike
Ftilt (up-angled, end range)

:4jigglypuff:Jigglypuff
None.

:4dedede:King Dedede
Utilt

:4littlemac: Little Mac
Jolt Haymaker

:4kirby:Kirby
Ftilt (up-angled)

:4link:Link
Jab (last hit)
Usmash (2nd & 3rd hits only; front only; mid-end range; if you crouch during the first hit, you can usually avoid hits 2 & 3)
Gale Boomerang (hitbox only; still affected by wind)

:4lucario:Lucario
Usmash

:4lucas:Lucas
N/A

:4lucina:
U-tilt( front only)

:4luigi:Luigi
Fsmash (up-angled)

:4mario:Mario
None.

:4marth:Marth
Utilt (front only, mid-end range)

:4megaman:Megaman
None.

:4metaknight:Meta Knight
None.

:4mewtwo:
Ftilt (up angled, not close range)
Ftilt (forward angled, maximum range)
Utilt (maximum range)
Utilt (when behind mewtwo)
Neutral B (uncharged, close range, projectile "waves" as it travels)
Down B

:4ness:Ness
Utilt (end range)

:4olimar::4alph:Olimar/Alph
None.

:4palutena:Palutena
Utilt

:4pacman:Pac-Man
None.

:4peach:Peach
None.

:4pikachu:Pikachu
Ftilt (up-angled)

:4pit::4darkpit:Pit/Dark Pit
Utilt (end range)
Palutena's Arrow (neutral position)

Robin:4robinm::4robinf:
Thunder,El Thunder, Arc Thunder, Thoron


:rosalina:
Luma Shot

:4rob:R.O.B.
Ftilt (up-angled)
Fsmash (up-angled & straight forward)
U-smash
Robo Beam (neutral position)
Arm Rotor (up-angled & straight forward)

:4samus:Samus
Ftilt (up-angled & straight forward)
F-smash (up-angled)
Jab 1 (1st hit only, mid-end range)
Super Missile
Charge Shot (small-mid sized)

:4sheik: Sheik
None.

:4sonic:Sonic
None.

:4villager:Vilager
None.

:4tlink:Toon Link
Arrow(close range)

:4wario:Wario
Ftilt (up-angled, mid-end range)


:4wiifit: Wii Fit Trainer
Grab(max range)


:4yoshi:Yoshi
Ftilt (up-angled)
Fsmash (up-angled)

:4zelda:Zelda
Utilt
Usmash
Ftilt (up-angled)

:4zss:Zero Suit Samus
Jab (1st & 2nd hits only)
Ftilt (up-angled & straight forward)
Paralyzer
Grab(close range)


Note: Some moves still need to be further tested. Any contributions to make this as accurate as possible would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Kaladin

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Did you test short-hopped ariels? That could be super useful in, say, the jiggs MU.
 

isaiah :)

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what about villager's bair and fair?
 

Zapp Branniglenn

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You're missing :4mewtwo:
Ftilt (up angled, not close range)
Ftilt (forward angled, maximum range)
Utilt (maximum range)
Utilt (when behind mewtwo)
Neutral B (uncharged, close range, projectile "waves" as it travels)
Down B

Also, you took care to try all the character's grab's right? I'm pretty certain some characters like Wii Fit have a very high reaching grab. Remember that there is a standing grab, dash grab, and pivot grab.
 
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busken

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You're missing :4mewtwo:
Ftilt (up angled, not close range)
Ftilt (forward angled, maximum range)
Utilt (maximum range)
Utilt (when behind mewtwo)
Neutral B (uncharged, close range, projectile "waves" as it travels)
Down B
Thanks, added to the OP.
 

Ritronaut

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Grabs he can crouch under would actually be really useful to test out. i dont really feel like doing it myself though
 

isaiah :)

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ill start testing things soon so keep up with me and we can collaborate im moving right now , and where ima be staying i should have time to test things c:
 

Ritronaut

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I tested it anyway:
No being Can not crouch under Yes being can crouch under:
:4mario:- No
:4luigi:- No
:4peach:- No
:4bowser:- No (Bowser swipes down to grab)
:4yoshi:- No
:rosalina:- No (This surprised me, it looks like Pikachu isn't going to get much results)
:4bowserjr:-No
:4wario:-No
:4dk:-No
:4diddy:-No
:4gaw:-No
:4littlemac:-No
:4link:-No
:4zelda:-No
:4sheik:-No
:4ganondorf:-No (this is gonna be a huge waste of time isn't it)
:4tlink:-No
:4samus:-No, (though samus' grab is really weird for some reason, on the tip of it it only grabs every second time for some reason?)
:4zss:- YES!, Well, kind of. If you are standing right next to her when she grabs, the tether will go right over you. If you are a bit away from her, you will get grabbed. (Hey thats kind of nice to know for upsmash punishes isn't it?)
:4pit:- No
:4darkpit:-No
:4palutena:-No
:4marth:-No
:4myfriends:-No
:4robinm:-No
:4duckhunt:-No
:4kirby:-No
:4dedede:-No
:4metaknight:-No
:4fox:-No
:4falco:-No
:4pikachu:-No
:4charizard:-No
:4lucario:-No (But if you crawl into him it works sometimes, not gonna test it further, and its probably not even important)
:4jigglypuff:-No
:4greninja:-No
:4rob:-No
:4ness:-No
:4falcon:-No (I've been lied to :I)
:4villager:-No
:4olimar:-No
:4wiifit:-Kind of, if you're right next to her you'll get grabbed, if you're on the tip of her grab range if you duck you won't get grabbed.
:4shulk:-No
:4drmario:-No
:4lucina:-No
:4pacman:-Weird thing where you sometimes get grabbed sometimes don't (You'll mostly get grabbed though)
:4megaman:-Weird thing where you sometimes get grabbed sometimes don't again. (mostly you get grabbed though)
:4sonic:-No
:4mewtwo:-No...
:4miibrawl:-No
:4miigun:-No
:4miisword:-No

Well thats 20 minutes I'll never get back. Whatever, at least we know now I guess. Pikachu might be small but his crouch is kinda terrible.
 
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RunawayPanda

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I tested it anyway:
No being Can not crouch under Yes being can crouch under:
:4mario:- No
:4luigi:- No
:4peach:- No
:4bowser:- No (Bowser swipes down to grab)
:4yoshi:- No
:rosalina:- No (This surprised me, it looks like Pikachu isn't going to get much results)
:4bowserjr:-No
:4wario:-No
:4dk:-No
:4diddy:-No
:4gaw:-No
:4littlemac:-No
:4link:-No
:4zelda:-No
:4sheik:-No
:4ganondorf:-No (Should I even be bothering with this...)
:4tlink:-No
:4samus:-No, (though samus' grab is really weird for some reason, on the tip of it it only grabs every second time for some reason?)
:4zss:- YES!, Well, kind of. If you are standing right next to her when she grabs, the tether will go right over you. If you are a bit away from her, you will get grabbed. (Hey thats kind of nice to know for upsmash punishes isn't it?)
:4pit:- No
:4darkpit:-No
:4palutena:-No
:4marth:-No
:4myfriends:-No
:4robinm:-No
:4duckhunt:-No
:4kirby:-No
:4dedede:-No
:4metaknight:-No
:4fox:-No
:4falco:-No
:4pikachu:-No
:4charizard:-No
:4lucario:-No (But if you crawl into him it works sometimes, not gonna test it further, and its probably not even important)
:4jigglypuff:-No
:4greninja:-No
:4rob:-No
:4ness:-No
:4falcon:-No (I've been lied to :I)
:4villager:-No
:4olimar:-No
:4wiifit:-Kind of, if you're right next to her you'll get grabbed, if you're on the tip of her grab range if you duck you won't get grabbed.
:4shulk:-No
:4drmario:-No
:4lucina:-No
:4pacman:-Weird thing where you sometimes get grabbed sometimes don't (You'll mostly get grabbed though)
:4megaman:-Weird thing where you sometimes get grabbed sometimes don't again. (mostly you get grabbed though)
:4sonic:-No
:4mewtwo:-No...
:4miibrawl:-No
:4miigun:-No
:4miisword:-No

Well thats 20 minutes I'll never get back. Whatever, at least we know now I guess. Pikachu might be small but his crouch is kinda terrible.
Oh guess I was wrong, but did you test dash grabs? Maybe that's what I was thinking
 

isaiah :)

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well i did a little testing with my brother and CF kinda misses sometimes when pikachu ducks right when he grabs but pit grabs everytime
 
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Kaladin

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I tested it anyway:
No being Can not crouch under Yes being can crouch under:
:4mario:- No
:4luigi:- No
:4peach:- No
:4bowser:- No (Bowser swipes down to grab)
:4yoshi:- No
:rosalina:- No (This surprised me, it looks like Pikachu isn't going to get much results)
:4bowserjr:-No
:4wario:-No
:4dk:-No
:4diddy:-No
:4gaw:-No
:4littlemac:-No
:4link:-No
:4zelda:-No
:4sheik:-No
:4ganondorf:-No (this is gonna be a huge waste of time isn't it)
:4tlink:-No
:4samus:-No, (though samus' grab is really weird for some reason, on the tip of it it only grabs every second time for some reason?)
:4zss:- YES!, Well, kind of. If you are standing right next to her when she grabs, the tether will go right over you. If you are a bit away from her, you will get grabbed. (Hey thats kind of nice to know for upsmash punishes isn't it?)
:4pit:- No
:4darkpit:-No
:4palutena:-No
:4marth:-No
:4myfriends:-No
:4robinm:-No
:4duckhunt:-No
:4kirby:-No
:4dedede:-No
:4metaknight:-No
:4fox:-No
:4falco:-No
:4pikachu:-No
:4charizard:-No
:4lucario:-No (But if you crawl into him it works sometimes, not gonna test it further, and its probably not even important)
:4jigglypuff:-No
:4greninja:-No
:4rob:-No
:4ness:-No
:4falcon:-No (I've been lied to :I)
:4villager:-No
:4olimar:-No
:4wiifit:-Kind of, if you're right next to her you'll get grabbed, if you're on the tip of her grab range if you duck you won't get grabbed.
:4shulk:-No
:4drmario:-No
:4lucina:-No
:4pacman:-Weird thing where you sometimes get grabbed sometimes don't (You'll mostly get grabbed though)
:4megaman:-Weird thing where you sometimes get grabbed sometimes don't again. (mostly you get grabbed though)
:4sonic:-No
:4mewtwo:-No...
:4miibrawl:-No
:4miigun:-No
:4miisword:-No

Well thats 20 minutes I'll never get back. Whatever, at least we know now I guess. Pikachu might be small but his crouch is kinda terrible.
This makes me sad. I am sadichu.
 

Ritronaut

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well i did a little testing with my brother and CF kinda misses sometimes when pikachu ducks right when he grabs but pit grabs everytime
Wait, Pikachu's hurtbox is smaller while he is ducking right before the grab? Are you sure?

Edit: Ok, I tested out falcon one more time, and if you are on the very edge of his grab range, ducking will avoid grab. But if you are near him he will grab you every time.
 
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Uncle Honey

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When characters are idle while crouching, some go into animation. This makes their hitbox smaller. For some characters, their smallest hitbox occurs during the beginning of their crouch. Kirby is an example of this and the same is true for Pikachu.

Another list to pair alongside this would be Pikachu's bair for whomever likes to lab.
 

busken

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I tested it anyway:
No being Can not crouch under Yes being can crouch under:
:4mario:- No
:4luigi:- No
:4peach:- No
:4bowser:- No (Bowser swipes down to grab)
:4yoshi:- No
:rosalina:- No (This surprised me, it looks like Pikachu isn't going to get much results)
:4bowserjr:-No
:4wario:-No
:4dk:-No
:4diddy:-No
:4gaw:-No
:4littlemac:-No
:4link:-No
:4zelda:-No
:4sheik:-No
:4ganondorf:-No (this is gonna be a huge waste of time isn't it)
:4tlink:-No
:4samus:-No, (though samus' grab is really weird for some reason, on the tip of it it only grabs every second time for some reason?)
:4zss:- YES!, Well, kind of. If you are standing right next to her when she grabs, the tether will go right over you. If you are a bit away from her, you will get grabbed. (Hey thats kind of nice to know for upsmash punishes isn't it?)
:4pit:- No
:4darkpit:-No
:4palutena:-No
:4marth:-No
:4myfriends:-No
:4robinm:-No
:4duckhunt:-No
:4kirby:-No
:4dedede:-No
:4metaknight:-No
:4fox:-No
:4falco:-No
:4pikachu:-No
:4charizard:-No
:4lucario:-No (But if you crawl into him it works sometimes, not gonna test it further, and its probably not even important)
:4jigglypuff:-No
:4greninja:-No
:4rob:-No
:4ness:-No
:4falcon:-No (I've been lied to :I)
:4villager:-No
:4olimar:-No
:4wiifit:-Kind of, if you're right next to her you'll get grabbed, if you're on the tip of her grab range if you duck you won't get grabbed.
:4shulk:-No
:4drmario:-No
:4lucina:-No
:4pacman:-Weird thing where you sometimes get grabbed sometimes don't (You'll mostly get grabbed though)
:4megaman:-Weird thing where you sometimes get grabbed sometimes don't again. (mostly you get grabbed though)
:4sonic:-No
:4mewtwo:-No...
:4miibrawl:-No
:4miigun:-No
:4miisword:-No

Well thats 20 minutes I'll never get back. Whatever, at least we know now I guess. Pikachu might be small but his crouch is kinda terrible.
Thank you for your contribution! I see crouching against ZSS in close corners very useful because not is crouching the best option since her grab beats spot dodge, but it also has alot of cool down allowing for a big punish. Crouch in general is good for the ZSS MU since it beats grab and paralyzer.
 
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