AI Issue: CPU's only try when they want to?

[Jmook11]

Requested removal-

 

[Justkallmekai]

That's happens to me really on with Lucas, but for the most part the AI we@ill kinda be....Derpy. If you stand still they'll do nothing to, but sometimes the do go try hard, but that'll lead to their death. The AI is good and bad in Project M at the same time really.

 

[Jmook11]

Yeah. I know the AI varies between characters but DK seems to stand still the most, and always counters the next move...

 

[Justkallmekai]

Yeah. I know the AI varies between characters but DK seems to stand still the most, and always counters the next move...

Yea, it happens a lot with Jiggs when I play.

 

[PillsBuryDopeBoy]

The cpu will either play like a pro, or act like a complete idiot.
This is the legendary AI that only appears in project M.....

 

[Prince Longstrok]

That same CPU that 0 to deaths you aill then immediatly air dodge off the stage after you press the A button.

The AI gods giveth and taketh.

 

[yoyowoodchuckguy]

I pretty much only play CPUs () because there's no one around me. If it starts playing like a genius, I just start doing random (sort of) dash-dances and attacks. It gets confused, and then I just go and crush it.

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

Either they wavedash back, shield-grab, roll, anything that prevents them from being hit. It so unfair that I try out combos for practice and end up getting beat by a CPU! WHY!!!!????

Cuz you got outplayed?

Stop getting mad and beat the CPU.

 

[Jmook11]

Cuz you got outplayed?

Stop getting mad and beat the CPU.

It sounds like I suck, but they do this with Sheiks tilts/jab which are really fast moves. Unless you're lucky, no one can react in 1 to 2 frames....

 

[Spooky Skook]

There is a golden rule that has been passed down from generation to generation that should never be forgotten no matter what.
THE
COMPUTER
CHEATS

We have tiny fleshy fingers and they have imaginary bionic man fingers.

 

[Jmook11]

There is a golden rule that has been passed down from generation to generation that should never be forgotten no matter what.
THE
COMPUTER
CHEATS

We have tiny fleshy fingers and they have imaginary bionic man fingers.

lol who said the cpu was a man? (Milktea spits out her tea)

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

It sounds like I suck, but they do this with Sheiks tilts/jab which are really fast moves. Unless you're lucky, no one can react in 1 to 2 frames....

The only way the computer cheats is by sometimes using forbidden DI. (DI'ing down and tech'ing strong hits.) Everything the Sheik CPU does, humans can do, and better.

Forget M2K, just look at a video of Okami or Redd.

And beat the CPU. If you can't fight the level 9's, you can't fight good people.

 

[PillsBuryDopeBoy]

And beat the CPU. If you can't fight the level 9's, you can't fight good people.

This though. It goes from Player matchs> Online/netplay> Cpu's. If u have trouble beating a somewhat flawed cpu, then actual player match's are gonna be hell.

 

[QQQQQQQ7777777]

And beat the CPU. If you can't fight the level 9's, you can't even fight the most mediocre of players.

Fix'd

 

[Jmook11]

The only way the computer cheats is by sometimes using forbidden DI. (DI'ing down and tech'ing strong hits.) Everything the Sheik CPU does, humans can do, and better.

Forget M2K, just look at a video of Okami or Redd.

And beat the CPU. If you can't fight the level 9's, you can't fight good people.

I was talking about playing AS Sheik, and how her fast moves tend to be countered extremely fast at times...

 

[KingClubber]

The Pecking Order.

You
Project M's AI
Everyone Else not good at the game (I might be here )
Those Guys
The PMBR (Minus i )
The Good Players
M2K

Any Questions?

But seriously these Cpu's suck, i would know I made them. But i'm always trying to make them better, Not going to stop trying until i make a cpu that can make it out of Pools in a real tournament.

 

[Jmook11]

I get beat because I don't try. Instead I try out combos and tactics and once in a while the computer does something I don't expect. Maybe beat is a strong word but in other words the CPU's occasionally reacts really fast. I appreciate your contribution to PM, improving the AI is very helpful to gameplay. I'm saying i get surprised when the computer does techniques and split second decisions...

 

[Y-L]

Lucario charges his ball and sits there charging it until you approach.

 

[roman5hero]

idk if known but a friend showd me that many charecters ruin the AI by just mashing neutral B, the AI will just dash dance through you back and forth.

 

[CyberZixx]

That is an intended feature. It is called "isai AI".

 

[#HBC | Joker]

beat the CPU. If you can't fight the level 9's, you can't fight good people.

^^ While fighting a human isn't anything like fighting the CPU in most cases, this is actually true. The CPU's are mostly dumb techskill machines with extremely punishable habits. The truth is, if you're not able to punish the habits of a player who can't learn or adapt, how will you ever beat one who does? The CPUs may seem "too perfect" at some things, but there are people out there who will do some of that stuff to you, I assure you. The difference is that computers don't stop doing it, once you've figured out how to beat it.

 

[Joe73191]

I like the cpu, I usually try to practice at a stock deficit against them. I'm at the point where if I start with 3 stock I can win a match with them starting at 6 stock. I notice that with certain characters the cpu is much more aggro. Like with mario the cpu is way more aggro than it is with say peach or ganondorf. Honestly I think the cpu mario is the most aggro character i've ever seen. I love it though, it helps me to see areas that i fall short. I hope the cpu keeps getting harder and harder to beat with each update. Thank you Clubber! You rock!

 

[Berrial]

The AI is weird in PM, you can use combos and all that and get bad results, yet spamming F-smash and playing casually allows you to completely crush the CPU.
So i'd say CPU's are not meant as a test of skill against a real human, but a tool to practice on because it can DI and all that..... If you really want to win though you can just spam an attack...

 

[Koga_]

Thought I was the only one that noticed Mario was the best

I like the cpu, I usually try to practice at a stock deficit against them. I'm at the point where if I start with 3 stock I can win a match with them starting at 6 stock. I notice that with certain characters the cpu is much more aggro. Like with mario the cpu is way more aggro than it is with say peach or ganondorf. Honestly I think the cpu mario is the most aggro character i've ever seen. I love it though, it helps me to see areas that i fall short. I hope the cpu keeps getting harder and harder to beat with each update. Thank you Clubber! You rock!