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Acedudes Pain in the *** to go against list
- Thread starter Acedude55
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Desu~
Smash Ace
Seriously now.
In all honesty.
I ****ing hate kirby.
In all honesty.
I ****ing hate kirby.
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
Kirby is the biggest problem, easily.
Olimar, Pika, Falco and ICs are the next biggest.
Meta Knight is Meta Knight. I like that match-up though.
No problems with the others.
Olimar, Pika, Falco and ICs are the next biggest.
Meta Knight is Meta Knight. I like that match-up though.
No problems with the others.
Dekillsage
Smash Lord
Lmao @ snake xD
lordhelmet
Smash Master
Pikachu isn't even that bad. Fun matchup unless you're playing someone way above your skill level.
Snake, Diddy, ZSS, and Fox are all matchups I really underestimated. They can really **** Falcon up.
Snake, Diddy, ZSS, and Fox are all matchups I really underestimated. They can really **** Falcon up.
Fox and Snake aren't that bad imo
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
It is a fun match-up, but if you're playing against a Pikachu that has any idea what they're doing whatsoever, it's a huge pain. Especially ones that know how to Quick Attack Cancel and setup grabs from random SH Thunderjolts.
Fox and Sheik are huge problems imo.
Yesterday was the first time I played a good Sheik with Falcon. We can't do much against her ftilt once we get caught in it. Our aerials aren't quick enough to punish it like some characters can, and trying to DI out of it with a fastfaller? You're more likely to get punished for even attempting it. Most likely by a grab. Good thing is, we can punish her recover extremely well and-- unless the Sheik knows how to gimp with fair offstage (which she should)-- we can survive at percents around 130%+ from her fresh smashes.
Grimmz
Smash Journeyman
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Today I got ***** badly by a good sheik too(He said his sheik was pretty rusty btw even though it doesn't look like it). Falcon has a really hard time approaching sheik, don't you hate it when they pivot their needles at you and your shield never inputs quick enough >.>
I could have SDI'd out her tilts.. Wifi just said no. And there was one game on PS1 where I was taking my time on ledge to get back on the stage safely, so then I finally found a safe way to get back so I pressed the R button and at the same time the sheik quickly rushed over and bair'd me before the invincibility frames started, However I didn't get stage spiked, I just pulled off an impossible tech and re-grabbed the ledge while the sheik met its doom due to her recovery being easy to edge hog LMAO
and that was the only game I won too haha
I could have SDI'd out her tilts.. Wifi just said no. And there was one game on PS1 where I was taking my time on ledge to get back on the stage safely, so then I finally found a safe way to get back so I pressed the R button and at the same time the sheik quickly rushed over and bair'd me before the invincibility frames started, However I didn't get stage spiked, I just pulled off an impossible tech and re-grabbed the ledge while the sheik met its doom due to her recovery being easy to edge hog LMAO
and that was the only game I won too haha
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
Even SDIing her ftilt doesn't do much, in our case anyway. Getting behind her can be punished just as easily too. If not by another F-tilt, but a grab. Don't ever let a Sheik F-tilt you at low percents while you're in the air. You'll be taking at least 45% (minimum) from it.
That's my lesson for the day.
That's my lesson for the day.
Psychoace
Smash Champion
I have some good vs kirby matches just need them uploaded. He's definitely the toughest for me along side pika. A good bair spacing kirby is the down fall of our aerial game.
Its not even just the bair
If every kirby played like MikeKirby vs Falcon itd be the end of the world. All he has to do is crouch and we cant do **** and what we can do can be seen coming and shielded in time. Not to mention if he gets a grab we're taking a good 25% a more. It becomes a strict mindgame/pick your spots to attack match
If every kirby played like MikeKirby vs Falcon itd be the end of the world. All he has to do is crouch and we cant do **** and what we can do can be seen coming and shielded in time. Not to mention if he gets a grab we're taking a good 25% a more. It becomes a strict mindgame/pick your spots to attack match
SDI the grab follow up plz. Also use spaced Dtilt, and suddenly the matchup becomes much more manageable.
Psychoace
Smash Champion
up tilt is useful as well. As kirby is crouching I would also think jumping over him and doing a bair to hit behind him could be of some help. It does become a pick your spot match at higher percents like you said though.
If any of you were watching todays stream of the big N in the bronx youd see little glimpes of why I have peach and GaW up there. Also decided to play mikekirby some and it was ridiculous. Not even gonna describe how I have to play lol you just gotta witness it
Url plz
Or replays
Or replays
Psychoace
Smash Champion
http://www.twitch.tv/8wayrun/b/350565083
Around the 2 hour mark. mikekirby down tilted you into oblivion lol, those jump behind bairs you did were really effective when done.
Around the 2 hour mark. mikekirby down tilted you into oblivion lol, those jump behind bairs you did were really effective when done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkJTPAeJOrE
basically how it goes before sandbagging happens
theres more to show but ill do it later
basically how it goes before sandbagging happens
theres more to show but ill do it later
RvlvRBobcat
Smash Apprentice
I seem to do well against snake and marth despite the match-up ratio, to me it isnt the characters with gaps that annoy me. The winners to that are pikachu, sheik and dedede.
The problem i have with these characters is the chains they pull off that work at any percent, (Pikachu's chain grab which doesnt need buffer because falcon is heavy) Sheik's forward tilt, (can link me to 100% and then up smash sweet spot isnt di'able) and dedede's chaingrab. (simply doesnt end, even at higher percents)
With snake's down throw, i know i can mind game the snake to get out of that.
With Falco's down throw, i know that at some point it will end.
With Diddy Kong's Bananas, i know diddy still cant kill me until 180%.
With the 3 characters that i have mentioned it's, grab and i lose. (or forward tilt and i lose)
The problem i have with these characters is the chains they pull off that work at any percent, (Pikachu's chain grab which doesnt need buffer because falcon is heavy) Sheik's forward tilt, (can link me to 100% and then up smash sweet spot isnt di'able) and dedede's chaingrab. (simply doesnt end, even at higher percents)
With snake's down throw, i know i can mind game the snake to get out of that.
With Falco's down throw, i know that at some point it will end.
With Diddy Kong's Bananas, i know diddy still cant kill me until 180%.
With the 3 characters that i have mentioned it's, grab and i lose. (or forward tilt and i lose)
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
Still standing behind Kirby/Falcon being Falcon's worst match-up.
Psychoace
Smash Champion
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