Hi guys !
Just wanted to talk about the one thing that I really hate about the villager : his absolutely awful grab. As I think that the move is very funny looking (I mean come on, grabbing your ennemy with a net is just hilarious), I think that it is as well poorly designed and nearly unusable in most situations. In all honesty, I think this move may be one of the worst (if not simply the worst) grab of the game.
Let's begin with the pros :
-the Bthrow is a very decent killing move at high %
-you can grab from a bit further than Mario.
On the other hand, the cons :
-for a ranged grab, it really lacks range...
-hitting a grabbed ennemy is difficult given how slow the rhythm of the hits is.
-the move has a fairly long ending lag when you miss the target.
-it also has an extremely disturbing starting lag making the move pretty slow.
The first two cons can be a bit annoying, but nothing too serious. But the last two are the core of a very deeper problem that makes some matchups extremely tough against some characters.
Villager's grab is bad in most of common situations. That's okay, you can deal with it. But the real trouble is here : in fact the villager just can't shield grab. Or to be more precise : villager can't shield grab efficiently because the move is so slow to use that your ennemy will have the time to, roll away from you, hit you with a tilt, a jab, or even grab you back before your net has even arrived to the tip of his hair. Shield grabbing is NOT an option for the villager. And given how strong and useful is this mechanic in the game, I have the feeling that it will be a very big flaw, very hard to compensate, even for a skilled villager.
The only way I figured to use the villager's net efficiently is as a kill move when your ennemy just land in helpless state in the middle of the map. And even then they sometimes recover quickly enough to dodge it.
Am I missing something or completely wrong about this grab ? Or maybe are there any "secret techniques" to make this move more useful ?
What's your feeling about it ?
Just wanted to talk about the one thing that I really hate about the villager : his absolutely awful grab. As I think that the move is very funny looking (I mean come on, grabbing your ennemy with a net is just hilarious), I think that it is as well poorly designed and nearly unusable in most situations. In all honesty, I think this move may be one of the worst (if not simply the worst) grab of the game.
Let's begin with the pros :
-the Bthrow is a very decent killing move at high %
-you can grab from a bit further than Mario.
On the other hand, the cons :
-for a ranged grab, it really lacks range...
-hitting a grabbed ennemy is difficult given how slow the rhythm of the hits is.
-the move has a fairly long ending lag when you miss the target.
-it also has an extremely disturbing starting lag making the move pretty slow.
The first two cons can be a bit annoying, but nothing too serious. But the last two are the core of a very deeper problem that makes some matchups extremely tough against some characters.
Villager's grab is bad in most of common situations. That's okay, you can deal with it. But the real trouble is here : in fact the villager just can't shield grab. Or to be more precise : villager can't shield grab efficiently because the move is so slow to use that your ennemy will have the time to, roll away from you, hit you with a tilt, a jab, or even grab you back before your net has even arrived to the tip of his hair. Shield grabbing is NOT an option for the villager. And given how strong and useful is this mechanic in the game, I have the feeling that it will be a very big flaw, very hard to compensate, even for a skilled villager.
The only way I figured to use the villager's net efficiently is as a kill move when your ennemy just land in helpless state in the middle of the map. And even then they sometimes recover quickly enough to dodge it.
Am I missing something or completely wrong about this grab ? Or maybe are there any "secret techniques" to make this move more useful ?
What's your feeling about it ?
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