So, I think another thing others like those in the USA realize is that when they ask the government for help on something, like something college related, they have to do their part on those things as well. They can't just expect the government to fully do something automatically for them when they need something because the rest, more or less, does have to be up to the people as well. To me, people, while they are free to ask for help on things, have to do part of things themselves, as having something done fully by someone else rather than doing any of the work themselves is just laziness. It is like asking a teacher or parent to do a kid's homework for them when they need help with it, as if they don't do anything themselves, they kid does not learn from it, and I find that to be similar to situations where the government might help the people with something.
On top of that, I think humanity is more of an interdependent species on things rather than a species of independent living things. We are depending on things like food and shelter, as well as other people for things like any medical issues, learning, leaders, managing things, etc. in many ways, as we don't have all the skills at birth to help ourselves out. With that said, I think freedom takes away from people knowing about being interdependent on things and others, and people may use freedom as an excuse to not get help on things they need when they absolutely need it and just take their own chances when it is a bad idea. Now, I suppose freedom can coexist with interdependence to an extent, but I can't imagine it would be by a large amount. That said, I don't think humanity may realize that we are more of an interdependent species than we are independent on things. We may learn to grow up from needing parents or not needing teachers for something at some point, etc., but that does not make us independent completely, as there are many things we have not been taught or don't know still. People may need things like leaders or heroes, but leaders and heroes have to be shaped to be proper leaders and heroes through experience, which the people they lead and protect have to go through to develop too, and that requires interdependence.
That said, I think the reality is more of an interdependent existence rather than a dependent one. There was this story of a man who pulled himself and his horse from sinking in the ground by pulling his own hair, and that is impossible. Why? Because of Newton's Third Law of Motion of Action-Reaction, which states an object can only move if it exerts a force on another object, which exerts a force back on the first object. That is an example of reality being interdependence based. Even other animals are more interdependent on things like humans, and humans are animals too. In fact, I don't think humanity realizes that we are so much like animals that I think that instead of the things animals basically do like hunting, being wild and other things, we humans have gone a step further and developed societies and advanced thoughts and branches of reason, and even then, that is, the society parts, still is all based on what animals do. Additionally, in terms of free will, I read plenty of times that free will is actually the unconscious mind making decisions for humans rather than the conscious mind, which sounds like something animals' minds would do. Still, yeah, based on all this, not only are we more like animals, who are interdependent on things, but reality is too, and with the unconscious being something that may be what makes decisions for people, I think the mind is more interdependent than free. In the early years of humanity's 20,000 years of existence, we were not born with this possible realization, or any other knowledge, as we had to learn it ourselves. In fact, we just assumed or made up things on our own before learning them, and what we made up can be considered wrong in the end, too, whether it is religion or something more science based.
So in the end, I don't think people are so free, and are more interdependent than free, and "free will" can be used as an excuse to reject help even when it is necessary.
So, what do you all think?
On top of that, I think humanity is more of an interdependent species on things rather than a species of independent living things. We are depending on things like food and shelter, as well as other people for things like any medical issues, learning, leaders, managing things, etc. in many ways, as we don't have all the skills at birth to help ourselves out. With that said, I think freedom takes away from people knowing about being interdependent on things and others, and people may use freedom as an excuse to not get help on things they need when they absolutely need it and just take their own chances when it is a bad idea. Now, I suppose freedom can coexist with interdependence to an extent, but I can't imagine it would be by a large amount. That said, I don't think humanity may realize that we are more of an interdependent species than we are independent on things. We may learn to grow up from needing parents or not needing teachers for something at some point, etc., but that does not make us independent completely, as there are many things we have not been taught or don't know still. People may need things like leaders or heroes, but leaders and heroes have to be shaped to be proper leaders and heroes through experience, which the people they lead and protect have to go through to develop too, and that requires interdependence.
That said, I think the reality is more of an interdependent existence rather than a dependent one. There was this story of a man who pulled himself and his horse from sinking in the ground by pulling his own hair, and that is impossible. Why? Because of Newton's Third Law of Motion of Action-Reaction, which states an object can only move if it exerts a force on another object, which exerts a force back on the first object. That is an example of reality being interdependence based. Even other animals are more interdependent on things like humans, and humans are animals too. In fact, I don't think humanity realizes that we are so much like animals that I think that instead of the things animals basically do like hunting, being wild and other things, we humans have gone a step further and developed societies and advanced thoughts and branches of reason, and even then, that is, the society parts, still is all based on what animals do. Additionally, in terms of free will, I read plenty of times that free will is actually the unconscious mind making decisions for humans rather than the conscious mind, which sounds like something animals' minds would do. Still, yeah, based on all this, not only are we more like animals, who are interdependent on things, but reality is too, and with the unconscious being something that may be what makes decisions for people, I think the mind is more interdependent than free. In the early years of humanity's 20,000 years of existence, we were not born with this possible realization, or any other knowledge, as we had to learn it ourselves. In fact, we just assumed or made up things on our own before learning them, and what we made up can be considered wrong in the end, too, whether it is religion or something more science based.
So in the end, I don't think people are so free, and are more interdependent than free, and "free will" can be used as an excuse to reject help even when it is necessary.
So, what do you all think?
