A Stage CP Knowledge Speculation ?

[himemiya]

First I'm gonna say If there already a stage advantage speculation thread mind re-direct me there?

The purpose of this thread is to discuss stage advantages for certain characters and disadvantage for them so we can better understand are counter-picks.

ex: sonic has a disadvantage on small stages with platforms like yoshi's story or norfair because theres no room to run and platforms gets in the way for the spin to win tactic.

 

[Kink-Link5]

I'm inclined to disagree about Sonic exclusively disliking platforms and small stages. He seems to do just about as well with little space as with a lot of it. Short blastzones a sort of problematic I guess, but he can abuse those just as well as he gets affected by them.

Some Counterpicks are matchup specific. What might be an evenish stage for both characters could be a CP for that particular matchup. Some Charizards and all Ness I know of would say FD is neutral for both characters (I disagree and find FD deplorable for Charizard outside of specific matchups), but that within the matchup itself it is a strong CP for Ness due to the dynamics between characters.

This is a lot of why it makes it hard to say generalities about whether a matchup is even or not. Does Ness just win that matchup overall, or was it because of the stage?

I say a bit of both, but there are arguments that one or the other is NOT the culprit.

 

[himemiya]

BTW do you by any chance there being a blastzone tier list on smashmods? Mostly so I can copy/paste it to this thread.

 

[Kink-Link5]

If there is going to be one I suggest it lists

Camera Zones
Blast Zones
Stage Length
Distance from edge of stage (and highest platform) to Blast Zones

Because even with just Melee stages, YS seems a LOT larger than FoD just because of how close the blast zones are to the stage. It's possible it's just placebo though.

 

[himemiya]

I was asking if there was one already. I'm not sure but I do remenber there being one on smashmods but can't find it.