A offensive chain use *gasp*

[Tristan_win]

After some aggressive matches against a Sonic main today I realize just how hard it is to edge guard him when he use his ^B.

Edgehoging is out of the question unless Sonic is super low or far away, Nair wasn't working (trading with Sonic isn't fun as it's very hard to hit the speedy little ****er with a ftilt or dtilt), Vanish for the most part was far too slow and risky if miss, and ground attack just wasn't effective enough so I decide to pull out the old whip.

Its effectiveness was melee quality.

The chain may be completely useless against most of the cast because how easily it is for people to sweet spot or even retaliate if hit, also practically everything is a better and more reliable option but against a under the edge recovering Sonic this is not the case as his aerials are slow and don’t reach very far also all of his B moves have a faint bit of start up lag including his ^B.

This is very effective and should be used if at all possible

 

[imdavid]

thanks tristan, i hate sonic players... those annoying little buggers.

 

[The Great Leon]

Sonic gets ***** by needles btw, but thanks for the info.

 

[Tenki]

After some aggressive matches against a Sonic main today I realize just how hard it is to edge guard him when he use his ^B.

Edgehoging is out of the question unless Sonic is super low or far away, Nair wasn't working (trading with Sonic isn't fun as it's very hard to hit the speedy little ****er with a ftilt or dtilt), Vanish for the most part was far too slow and risky if miss, and ground attack just wasn't effective enough so I decide to pull out the old whip.

Its effectiveness was melee quality.

The chain may be completely useless against most of the cast because how easily it is for people to sweet spot or even retaliate if hit, also practically everything is a better and more reliable option but against a under the edge recovering Sonic this is not the case as his aerials are slow and don’t reach very far also all of his B moves have a faint bit of start up lag including his ^B.

This is very effective and should be used if at all possible

Was that me?

cause I remember being edgeguarded by a Sheik chain against the first Sheik player I fought in Brawl/online.

it wouldn't work on me as well anymore because I've found out about/can control Sonic's Up-B invincibility frames since then >:D

When I figured it out, I was thinking "THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN SOOO USEFUL AGAINST THAT SHEIK!"

it was a good move though :D
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post thoughts, you know, that was probably the most intense game I've played with anyone, and like... it gave me kaioken x10 against everyone else I played for the rest of that night. Definitely have to do that again some time XD

 

[Tristan_win]

Yup ^-^

and would you be so kind as to put a link to where you found this piece of information. I would like to know how well Sonic can do this, hopfully this will still be a viable edge guard.

 

[Tenki]

Yup ^-^

and would you be so kind as to put a link to where you found this piece of information. I would like to know how well Sonic can do this, hopfully this will still be a viable edge guard.

it's kinda been a general discovery/knowledge that Sonic had invincibility during spring jump.

Recently, I did some testing, and found that basically Sonic is invincible from the point he jumps til about full hop height.

 

[Kricu]

Wow I'm a bit hurt after reading this. I mean yes it's good information but:
a) I use Sonic
b) I basically told people about this whole edgeguarding stuff with the chain a while ago and was shut down

meh