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A analysis of chars.

Lgndknight

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ohh yay, another one. I'll justt express my opinion on poular, controversial characters. My lack of pics means nothing


Bowser Jr.(Baby Bowser): well... recently he's gotten plenty of attentoin, including many fights which inevitably end in "We're sorry Mario, your princess is in another castle." Honestly he's a small Bowser who dressed up like Mario to ruin his name, in his neverending quest for "Momma Peach". A transformation into Shadow Mario might be a bit iffy, since Shadow Mario is Mario, with a paintbrush. In fact, the only way I approve BJ is with a paintbrush moveset, with no transformation.
Overall Chance: 8/10 (with paintbrush moveset)

Ridley: I'll try to refrain from saying he's too big. OK, now, I'll be major flamed for this... I really didn't play the MP series all that much. What i can infer is that all they've done is make Ridley bigger. A screenshot from MP3 show Samus smaller than Ridley's head. All Ridley people have to go off of is his 2 seconds in the Melee intro thing, and the fact "Well, he can crounch, he isn't that big with his wings folded. I ask, will it really be as fun to play a purple dragon you like because he's large and ultra-powerful. Bowser worked because he ges from Mario's size, to many times bigger, to a little bigger than mario. Bowser varies in size, Ridley maintains his size, basically, he's always much bigger than Samus. Samus's head about reaches the platforms in Battlefield right? I edited out much of this, giving a good reason why Ridley will/will not be in Brawl. Due to the Fanboy extremism I encountered ensuing this post, it has been deleted.
Overall chance: 8/10 (it's been brought to my attention you fight Ridley at norfair, and his music, gives him a couple points, but You can ignore that he can be a boss.)

Geno: finally. I'm sick and tired of Geno. A supporting Character in ONE GAME. I won't even mention his 15 seconds of fame with a cameo. I just did, oops. anyway, As far as I know, Lucas was the star of his game (Mother 3?) right? Mario is the Star of his game, IC are the star of their game, Luigi has his own game, DK, Diddy, Peach, Yoshi, Wrio, Metaknight has appeared in enough Kirby games, and is playable a few times, Kirby of course, the Pokemon are basically the stars of Pokemon. The list goes on, then we arrive at Geno.
Let's see,
*Sidekick
*one game
*not quite the star, despite literally being a star.
I just don't think, logically, he has a good chance, but the polls want him in so....
Overall chance: 7/10 (ok i'll give him a point, since, I concede, the story revolves around Geno. However, his lack of multiple games, and the fact that he only supports, despite being one of the mains.) PS: Lack of multiple games, you say IC? They're waaaaaaay more retro than Geno could wish to be.

Captain Olimar: While I'm not really a Pikmin fan I'll keep this short. Olimar is incredibly unique, which is good. Has amazing Moveset potential, good. And is the star of his own game good.Those first two reasons, what about Geno? I concede he has some Moveset potential, but really, he shoots lazers and has a gun right?
Overall chance: 8/10

Last one is...
Megaman
yes it's Megaman. honestly I don't see much in him. he can't shoot upwards, he uses one weapon throughout all his games, but heres the breakdown.

*sorta unique, relies on an arm-mounted cannon, where have we seen this?
*one weapon, Samus has missles, Megaman is Kirby-like, in the sense that he copies his opponents gun, but he doesn't have a move to absorb people to take their "gun", kirby has that already.
* lacks physical moves, without being a Samus clone

Overall chance: 7.5/10 (OK, somebody informed me it's his 20th year, which helps, as if being 20 is any different than being 19. but hyping his 20th year like everybody does, why not let people Smash him to pieces in a high-chance of sucess game)

I know I'll be flamed for All of these, but go ahead, this is all IMO. I'm not a fanboy of any of these chars,
 

Sabrewulf238

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woah for a second there I thought it said "a analysis of chairs".

Anyway, I think you're pretty off with some of these ones, no offense.

Ridley - 9/10
captain olimer - 9/10
Megaman - 7.5/10
Bowser jr. - 7/10
Geno - 7.5/10

That's my opinion anyway
 

Collective of Bears

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I think Ridley has a better chance. Given the recent announcement of Norfair, which is where you fought Ridley, I think that's a bit of a hint.
 

DynamiteSpoony

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*looks*....Yup. You're gonna get flamed. Badly.

And your entire argument against Geno: Sheik says "Hi". At least Geno was actually PLAYABLE in the game he appeared in.

And you didn't play any of the Megaman X games, did you?

EDIT: Oh, crap. You DID use the "too big" argument against Ridley. AFTER YOU SAID YOU WOULDN'T. I'm sorry, sir, but you fail.
 

lethminite

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been done 100 times, and unless you list geno and ridley as 100% their fanclubs will flame this thread for pages upon pages.

also far less detailed then other have done, and you used the "ridley is too big" even when you said you would refrain from doing so.

you called megaman a samus clone, and said geno wasn't the star, he was the star, he just wasn't the one you played as (from what i hear, the story focus on him, but you play as mario)

not going to comment on bowserjr and cpt.olimar, other then to say, been said before.
 

Reyairia

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You used the "Too big" argument against Ridley.

AUTOMATIC FAIL.
 

Lgndknight

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I knew I'd get flamed for accidently saying Ridleys too big. I've gotten so many epic phails.... if afacepalm picture comes up I'll cry. I'll edit some stuff. UPDATED, BE HAPPY
EDIT: I have not played Megaman X, I liked Megaman up to 8, then It lost it's fun, like sonic
 

RedMage8BT

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I support Geno for the fact that he could also DOUBLE as a Square rep, and personally, I think he's the best to represent Square since he's also sort of a Nintendo character.
 

platnum

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HOW dare you say ridley has low chances!:mad::mad:

i might not be a R.I.D.L.E.Y member but i will still defend ridley from noooobs like you

so without further delay may i introduce your DOOM

 

Lgndknight

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woah for a second there I thought it said "a analysis of chairs".

Anyway, I think you're pretty off with some of these ones, no offense.

Ridley - 9/10
captain olimer - 9/10
Megaman - 7.5/10
Bowser jr. - 7/10
Geno - 7.5/10

That's my opinion anyway
at least the cat isn't a facepalm, but it's saddening

Anyway, I need a logical explanation for why you think Megaman deserves a 7.5, megaman was the only flamed person I didn't update, nobodies given me a reason.
EDIT: square doesn't need to rep geno, since IT isn't really the face of square, Black Mage, or if Nintendo dare, Cloud, vincent, squall, Tidus etc. would work better
 

Lgndknight

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Geno has been in only one game has he? Sheik say's hi (again)
well dot dot dot, They put sheik in to be creative, and to maek people happy. Geno may make people happy and... and... I'm trying to maintain my personal title as the
Unofficial Geno-Hater of the Brawl Boards. but you make my job real hard, maybe I should practice on gamefaqs, most of them are idiots. I was expecting flaming though. especially for geno.
 

Pengie

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I don't think the boss excuse will work for Ridley since Sakurai never said anything about bosses being NPCs. If anything I see that as being the way you unlock Ridley.
 

LemonKing

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Geno isn't considered 3rd Party either. Under a contract Nintendo and Square have if Nintendo wants to use Geno then Square is not permitted to deny them the rights to him. So he doesn't have to Rep Square.

Also, Megaman's cannon works much differently then Samus's does and that could be implemented well in the game. That's like saying Mewtwo's Shadow Ball is just like Samus's Energy Ball. Also, there have been some really good suggestions as to how the Megaman Copy ability would work and I personally would love to have the standard B move be a constantly changing projectile.

Also Megaman has been on a ton of Nintendo systems and it is his 20th Year as a very well-known character. He is the next most deserving character out of the bunch.
 

Lgndknight

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Rayquaza, Petey Pirahna say HI while were unsure of Rayquaza's status, Petey is WAY to big(HA!, THIS TIME i'M RIGHT ABOUT SIZE!) to be unlockable. so in a way, SSE bosses should all be NPCs
 

lethminite

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coz gigabowser from melee didn't end up being his final smash in brawl.

so boss petey can't be a smaller petey's final smash? also, you can't have a boss version of a character (like bowser in melee, there was no alternate boss version of him in melee, am i right?)

[/sarcasm]

i don't think petey will be playable, but just coz he's a boss doesn't deconfirm him, just makes it a lil unlikely.
 

Pengie

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I'll give you Petey because he is to large to be unlocked but Sakurai has neither confirmed nor denied playable bosses if so then Dark Samus has almost no chance of being playable. And people are being hippocrites with the size excuse. If they can make Pikachu bigger why wouldn't they be able to make Ridley smaller. Also I haven't played Pikmen so correct me if I'm wrong but Isn't Olimar supposed to be really small to.
 

Lgndknight

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A little? he's like 16 times kirby's size!!
And a Smaller petey? Can we accept that petey is an NPC, I believe there is an update for him somewhere on the dojo.
 

Talendime

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well dot dot dot, They put sheik in to be creative, and to maek people happy. Geno may make people happy and... and... I'm trying to maintain my personal title as the
Unofficial Geno-Hater of the Brawl Boards. but you make my job real hard, maybe I should practice on gamefaqs, most of them are idiots. I was expecting flaming though. especially for geno.
You're sick of Geno eh? You wanna know what I'm sick of? The excessive use of the word "flame" on this stupid forum..

Anyway, don't you think Geno is creative? I mean, his moves are all just like.. RIGHT THERE... you know? Like pretty much everyone who knows Geno and pictures him in Brawl can immediately picture his move set..
And plus, there are also a bunch of characters who had only been in a single game.. Mr. Game and Watch, Young Link, Sheik, Ice Climbers, Doctor Mario umm.. Bowser....and then there's also Donkey Kong.. to strengthen my point a lil bit..


On a side note, did anybody else ever here about this?

"Will Kid Icarus ever fly again? If rumors prove true, Nintendo is set to revive one of its most beloved and yet forgotten franchises, using the unique control of the Nintendo Wii system to feel the sensation of flight in an all-new way."


On another side note: Petey doesn't even really fight. He pretty much just swings cages around..
 

lethminite

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A little? he's like 16 times kirby's size!!
And a Smaller petey? Can we accept that petey is an NPC, I believe there is an update for him somewhere on the dojo.
we can accept that "that petey" is a NPC, unless it's a final smash (you turn into him and lock 2 guys up and smash them together or into a 3rd?

again i don't think he's playable, i think it's a possibility that he is though.
 

NukeA6

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You say Ridley is too big. You fail to realize that Kirby is 8 inches tall.

Besides, Ridley was near Samus's size in the first Metroid.
 

El_Duderino

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You're sick of Geno eh? You wanna know what I'm sick of? The excessive use of the word "flame" on this stupid forum..

Anyway, don't you think Geno is creative? I mean, his moves are all just like.. RIGHT THERE... you know? Like pretty much everyone who knows Geno and pictures him in Brawl can immediately picture his move set..
And plus, there are also a bunch of characters who had only been in a single game.. Mr. Game and Watch, Young Link, Sheik, Ice Climbers, Doctor Mario umm.. Bowser....and then there's also Donkey Kong.. to strengthen my point a lil bit..


On a side note, did anybody else ever here about this?

"Will Kid Icarus ever fly again? If rumors prove true, Nintendo is set to revive one of its most beloved and yet forgotten franchises, using the unique control of the Nintendo Wii system to feel the sensation of flight in an all-new way."


On another side note: Petey doesn't even really fight. He pretty much just swings cages around..
Not that I intend to interject myself into the whole Geno thing, but you are laughably wrong about Game and Watch, Young Link, Dr. Mario, Bowser and DK. Sheik, being factually another more prolific character who is wearing a disguise, is debatable.
 
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